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    George K
    wrote on 30 Jul 2024, 16:11 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Wim
      wrote on 30 Jul 2024, 18:01 last edited by
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      Too soon to tell. The frontline is more than just the Crimea.

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        Mik
        wrote on 30 Jul 2024, 19:07 last edited by
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        I doubt liberation is all that near.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Renauda
          wrote on 30 Jul 2024, 21:32 last edited by
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          Realistically, I believe Crimea was lost ten years ago when Putin undertook his first anschluss of sovereign Ukrainian territory. Back then it was a cheap buffet to graze and forage.

          No longer the case.

          Elbows up!

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            George K
            wrote on 4 Aug 2024, 12:01 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:50 last edited by Renauda 8 Jun 2024, 21:52
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              Putin celebrates Navy Day:

              https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-black-sea-defeats-get-flushed-down-vladimir-putins-memory-hole/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGUyIqq7O7lsJL8cCr_UJo6iPo6opzpC7bmlQX41dCVjCGgKAX9QcySXNb3IdivjEK119DnTsWjx1fhlWxrLk3IvL75Cz5vU_ghssZHAqGUeAp-

              Photos:

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/07/29/in-photos-russia-stages-showcase-naval-parade-a85861

              Elbows up!

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                George K
                wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 12:28 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Wim
                  wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 13:35 last edited by
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                  Interesting discussion. We'll see who got it right. https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08/07/forbes-analyst-and-israeli-expert-clash-over-ukrainian-incursion-into-russias-kursk-oblast/

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 13:49 last edited by
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                    It's war and understandable. The problem comes in what do your neighboring countries - those that may be affected by a widening conflict - think about it? After all, Ukraine is getting a lot of weapons from countries in Europe.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      7 Aug 2024, 13:49

                      It's war and understandable. The problem comes in what do your neighboring countries - those that may be affected by a widening conflict - think about it? After all, Ukraine is getting a lot of weapons from countries in Europe.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 18:24 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 15:07
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                      @Jolly

                      I am sure the Orban in Hungary and Slovakia’s Pellegrini and Fico are not pleased with it. But what else can you expect from co-opted Kremlin friendly populist nationalists?

                      Neither supply much of anything in terms of military assistance to Kyiv. The good neighbours that do supply such as Poland, Romania, Lithuania and the remainder of European NATO membership, have no qualms about these incursions into Russia.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:22 last edited by
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                        Day three. Ukrainian forces appear to have control of Suzhda natural gas hub:

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0ngzg9754o

                        Elbows up!

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:25 last edited by
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                          There's some revulsion at an invading nation that targets civilians then cries no fair when you hit back.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:29 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 17:48
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                            Russia revels in playing the sole and eternal victim.

                            Elbows up!

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:51 last edited by
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                              Pretty wimpy for Viking remnants.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 18:03 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 19:48
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                                The inferiority complex is what feeds the Orthodoxy, Autocracy and Nationality of the Russian mentality.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 18:31 last edited by George K 8 Aug 2024, 18:31
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 19:58 last edited by
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                                    Fuck ‘em.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 21:34 last edited by
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                                      Well, maybe just the women...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        8 Aug 2024, 18:31

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 21:44 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 22:35
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                                        @George-K

                                        They come across as incredulous as to what happened or is happening. That or the plea to Putin has been staged for domestic consumption; it will play well throughout Russia but especially so in rural areas. As if they had no idea as to why “foreign” troops (note at no time do they say Ukrainian troops) invaded their territory.

                                        I suspect it was staged. A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          8 Aug 2024, 21:44

                                          @George-K

                                          They come across as incredulous as to what happened or is happening. That or the plea to Putin has been staged for domestic consumption; it will play well throughout Russia but especially so in rural areas. As if they had no idea as to why “foreign” troops (note at no time do they say Ukrainian troops) invaded their territory.

                                          I suspect it was staged. A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 22:54 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

                                          More likely than not.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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