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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #2234

    It's war and understandable. The problem comes in what do your neighboring countries - those that may be affected by a widening conflict - think about it? After all, Ukraine is getting a lot of weapons from countries in Europe.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      It's war and understandable. The problem comes in what do your neighboring countries - those that may be affected by a widening conflict - think about it? After all, Ukraine is getting a lot of weapons from countries in Europe.

      RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #2235

      @Jolly

      I am sure the Orban in Hungary and Slovakia’s Pellegrini and Fico are not pleased with it. But what else can you expect from co-opted Kremlin friendly populist nationalists?

      Neither supply much of anything in terms of military assistance to Kyiv. The good neighbours that do supply such as Poland, Romania, Lithuania and the remainder of European NATO membership, have no qualms about these incursions into Russia.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #2236

        Day three. Ukrainian forces appear to have control of Suzhda natural gas hub:

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0ngzg9754o

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #2237

          There's some revulsion at an invading nation that targets civilians then cries no fair when you hit back.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #2238

            Russia revels in playing the sole and eternal victim.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #2239

              Pretty wimpy for Viking remnants.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #2240

                The inferiority complex is what feeds the Orthodoxy, Autocracy and Nationality of the Russian mentality.

                Elbows up!

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #2241

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2242

                    Fuck ‘em.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2243

                      Well, maybe just the women...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG George K

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #2244

                        @George-K

                        They come across as incredulous as to what happened or is happening. That or the plea to Putin has been staged for domestic consumption; it will play well throughout Russia but especially so in rural areas. As if they had no idea as to why “foreign” troops (note at no time do they say Ukrainian troops) invaded their territory.

                        I suspect it was staged. A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @George-K

                          They come across as incredulous as to what happened or is happening. That or the plea to Putin has been staged for domestic consumption; it will play well throughout Russia but especially so in rural areas. As if they had no idea as to why “foreign” troops (note at no time do they say Ukrainian troops) invaded their territory.

                          I suspect it was staged. A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2245

                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

                          More likely than not.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2246

                            The answer to the why question is obvious in their appeal.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #2247

                              Wonder if Orban and Fico will send military aid to assuage their concerns.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2248

                                Second Russian helicopter brought down by a drone.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2249

                                  Don't take your eye off of the ball, though. Russia is still advancing. I'm guessing Ukraine's Kursk operation is meant to cut off some Russian supply lines and pull Russian troops back to defend those supply lines.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Don't take your eye off of the ball, though. Russia is still advancing. I'm guessing Ukraine's Kursk operation is meant to cut off some Russian supply lines and pull Russian troops back to defend those supply lines.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2250

                                    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    I'm guessing Ukraine's Kursk operation is meant to cut off some Russian supply lines

                                    I was wondering what the motivation for an offensive was. What you say makes sense. Russia MUST defend its territory. Not doing so will lose a lot of juice for Vlad the Invader.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2251

                                      The incursion is having a desirable effect in Moscow:

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/08/09/putin-seethes-as-ukraines-shock-incursion-catches-leadership-by-surprise-a85970

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        bachophile
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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2253

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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