The Ukraine war thread

[Renauda]

Putin offers compelling and generous terms:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday demanded Ukraine effectively surrender to Moscow if it wants to open peace talks, drawing anger and rebukes from Kyiv and the West.

In a combative speech in Moscow on the eve of a major Ukraine peace summit in Switzerland, Putin said Russia would halt its offensive only if Ukraine fully withdraws its troops from the east and south and drops its bid for NATO membership.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/06/14/putin-says-ukraine-must-withdraw-troops-to-start-peace-talks-a85413

I am confident that Putin is just emulating Trump and spitballing riffs that happen to pop into his mind.

[George K]

"We'll stop shooting at you (for now) if you give us everything we've taken."

[Renauda]

Something like that. Most Christian of Putin to be so magnanimous about it.

[Wim]

Another headache for Putin:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34739

[George K]

My Great Grandfather was governor of Tambov…before 1917.

[Wim]

@George: was that Luzhenovsky or his successor?

[George K]

Pavel Kandidov - here he is in 1905.

[Jolly]

That's some really nice log work...

[George K]

Pavel was the governor of the Tambov oblast. I’m told that he was friends with Leo Tolstoy. However, I don’t know anything beyond that.

[Wim]

Here you go: https://nkvd.tomsk.ru/researches/passional/kandidov-pavel-petrovich/

[Mik]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/guerrillas-halt-north-korean-ammunition-trains-near-russia-s-yekaterinburg/ar-BB1psCx7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=73fe1082c89444a0edc022e562b85547&ei=16

[Mik]

@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

Here you go: https://nkvd.tomsk.ru/researches/passional/kandidov-pavel-petrovich/

They do seem to eat their young, these communists.

[Renauda]

Once again, the Kremlin maintains that is Ukraine’s fault:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/07/08/west-condemns-russian-strike-on-kyiv-childrens-hospital-a85644

[George K]

@Renauda are those “River to the Sea” assholes coming the bombing of a children’s hospital?

No?

Didn’t think so.

[Renauda]

But of course not, Putin supports the plight of the Palestinians in their struggle against US global hegemony, Zionist imperialism and Ukrainian Nazis.

[Mik]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

@Renauda are those “River to the Sea” assholes coming the bombing of a children’s hospital?

No?

Didn’t think so.

Silly George. That’s just crackers killing crackers. No big.

[Wim]

So this was on purpose: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/35695

[George K]

@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

So this was on purpose: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/35695

I saw a related story with a photo of the team that attacked the children's hospital.

How long before this guy finds a window to fall from?

[Jolly]

He defected. If the CIA has any sense, he's in Washington by now.

[Renauda]

Poland considers downing Russian missiles over Western Ukraine:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn09234xxn1o

Even discussing this option is enough to make Putin roll over in bed for nights on end. Let him squirm. He’s already lost the war and the peace anyhow..