The Ukraine war thread

Mik

Should have supplied them in 22.

Jolly

Should have supplied them in 22.

You are right.

I'm not big on foreign wars, but if Ukraine needed the tools to stop Mr. Putin, they need the tools. Not in dribs and drabs, but in sufficient quantity to achieve the mission.

The Biden Administration has been very careful to never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time, to make a distinctive difference.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

never give the Ukranians quite enough at the right time,

Yeah, it's almost like he's a Russian agent. I wonder what dirt Putin has on him.

Wait, once again, that's from the wrong year.

Sorry.

Renauda

The ambiguity and emptiness of Putin’s red lines in Ukraine:

https://open.substack.com/pub/samf/p/fuzzy-red-lines-in-ukraine?r=17wfy3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Axtremus

https://wapo.st/3Vll45U

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-zelenskyy-sign-us-ukraine-security-agreement-g7/story?id=111061390

Biden, Zelensky to sign 10-year U.S.-Ukraine security deal at G-7 summit

Supposedly the agreement "will commit Washington to supply Kyiv with a wide range of military assistance." But unlike NATO, it does not require the U.S. to respond if Ukraine is attacked.

Mik

An interesting piece on the possibility of going nuclear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-nuclear-arsenal-is-crumbling-ukraine-can-take-it-out-for-good/ar-BB1oe8Nv?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=78d48b0c768a4563879c728536b1d3dc&ei=13

Wim

Russia hosts approx. 5900 nuclear arms. Assuming that a lot of them are out of use, Putin still has enough to make his threats believable.
I think this article is a tad too optimistic.

Renauda

Putin offers compelling and generous terms:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday demanded Ukraine effectively surrender to Moscow if it wants to open peace talks, drawing anger and rebukes from Kyiv and the West.

In a combative speech in Moscow on the eve of a major Ukraine peace summit in Switzerland, Putin said Russia would halt its offensive only if Ukraine fully withdraws its troops from the east and south and drops its bid for NATO membership.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/06/14/putin-says-ukraine-must-withdraw-troops-to-start-peace-talks-a85413

I am confident that Putin is just emulating Trump and spitballing riffs that happen to pop into his mind.