Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO
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wrote on 30 May 2020, 02:11 last edited by
“ President Trump has announced that he is immediately halting the decades-long U.S. membership in the World Health Organization over its response to China's handling of the coronavirus epidemic.
In a press briefing Friday at the White House, Trump said, "We will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization and redirecting those funds to other worldwide and deserving urgent global public health needs."
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wrote on 30 May 2020, 02:30 last edited by
Maybe the last proclamation on masks was the proverbial straw...
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wrote on 30 May 2020, 02:35 last edited by
My first thought was whether he even has the authority to do this.
Actually my real first thought was that this was setting up an argument during the election that aims to focus blame on the WHO and others.
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wrote on 30 May 2020, 02:37 last edited by
I guess everything is about the election now
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wrote on 30 May 2020, 02:53 last edited by
There are definitely problems with the WHO, but my concern is that sometimes it is easier (and better) to fix things from the inside when people can hear you, rather than try to fix from the outside when no one will listen to you.
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 13:24 last edited by
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 13:33 last edited by
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
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@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 13:38 last edited by Copper@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
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@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
wrote on 31 May 2020, 13:59 last edited by@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
Look at the assessed contributions.
Holy moly!
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@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:51 last edited by@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
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@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 16:32 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 16:36 last edited by
I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?
Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.
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I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?
Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 18:00 last edited by@xenon said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?
Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.
And the U.S. will continue to do that. The CDC is crying for money...
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 19:10 last edited by
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 19:11 last edited by
Looks like all they really need is Bill Gates.
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 20:30 last edited by
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
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What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
wrote on 31 May 2020, 20:49 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:58 last edited by@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.
Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:
Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.
Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 02:05 last edited by@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
