Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO

[89th]

My first thought was whether he even has the authority to do this.

Actually my real first thought was that this was setting up an argument during the election that aims to focus blame on the WHO and others.

[Copper]

I guess everything is about the election now

[taiwan_girl]

There are definitely problems with the WHO, but my concern is that sometimes it is easier (and better) to fix things from the inside when people can hear you, rather than try to fix from the outside when no one will listen to you.

[Jolly]

Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

[Copper]

@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

that "next guy" right now is China?

https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg

[Jolly]

@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

that "next guy" right now is China?

https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg

Look at the assessed contributions.

Holy moly!

[taiwan_girl]

@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

that "next guy" right now is China?

Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

[Loki]

@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

that "next guy" right now is China?

Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

[xenon]

I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?

Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.

[89th]

Who does that?

[Jolly]

@xenon said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?

Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.

And the U.S. will continue to do that. The CDC is crying for money...

[Mik]

@89th said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

Who does that?

No, What does that.

[Mik]

Looks like all they really need is Bill Gates.

[LuFins Dad]

What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

He doesn't want to get fooled again?

[taiwan_girl]

@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

that "next guy" right now is China?

Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.

Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:

Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.

Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

He doesn't want to get fooled again?

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

that "next guy" right now is China?

Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.

Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:

Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.

Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)

And how do they see him at his worst? What media helps form that opinion?

[89th]

@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

He doesn't want to get fooled again?

POTD!