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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

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    Axtremus
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    #7

    @Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

    Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

    Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

      Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

      Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by Copper
      #8

      @Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

      @Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

      Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

      Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

      that "next guy" right now is China?

      https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg

      alt text

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      • CopperC Copper

        @Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

        @Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

        Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

        Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

        that "next guy" right now is China?

        https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg

        alt text

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #9

        @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

        @Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

        @Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

        Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

        Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

        that "next guy" right now is China?

        https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg

        alt text

        Look at the assessed contributions.

        Holy moly!

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • CopperC Copper

          @Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

          @Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

          Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.

          Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.

          that "next guy" right now is China?

          https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg

          alt text

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

          that "next guy" right now is China?

          Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

            that "next guy" right now is China?

            Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

            @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

            that "next guy" right now is China?

            Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

            Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

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              xenon
              wrote on last edited by
              #12

              I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?

              Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.

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                89th
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                #13

                Who does that?

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                • X xenon

                  I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?

                  Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @xenon said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                  I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?

                  Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.

                  And the U.S. will continue to do that. The CDC is crying for money...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Who does that?

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @89th said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                    Who does that?

                    No, What does that.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      Looks like all they really need is Bill Gates.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #17

                        What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                          What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                          He doesn't want to get fooled again?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • L Loki

                            @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                            @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                            that "next guy" right now is China?

                            Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

                            Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                            @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                            that "next guy" right now is China?

                            Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

                            Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

                            The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.

                            Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:

                            Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.

                            Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)

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                            • George KG George K

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                              What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                              He doesn't want to get fooled again?

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                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #20

                              @George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                              What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                              He doesn't want to get fooled again?

                              😂

                              The Brad

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                that "next guy" right now is China?

                                Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

                                Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

                                The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.

                                Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:

                                Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.

                                Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #21

                                @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                @Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                @Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                that "next guy" right now is China?

                                Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.

                                Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.

                                The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.

                                Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:

                                Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.

                                Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)

                                And how do they see him at his worst? What media helps form that opinion?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                  What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                                  He doesn't want to get fooled again?

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #22

                                  @George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                  What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                                  He doesn't want to get fooled again?

                                  POTD!

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                                    #23

                                    I think the determination about what "most common people around the world" think about Trump is clouded by your own personal opinion.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                      What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                                      He doesn't want to get fooled again?

                                      POTD!

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                                      ImprovisoI Offline
                                      Improviso
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #24

                                      @89th Yea... that was pretty good. 😂

                                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                        Horace
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                                        #25

                                        My wife tells me that Chinese folk think we're one step away from anarchy, because racism. I think as one zooms out and is less personally involved with a society, the narrative driven by the MSM about that society becomes more and more the truth.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                          What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                                          He doesn't want to get fooled again?

                                          POTD!

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                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          #26

                                          @89th said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                          @George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:

                                          What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?

                                          He doesn't want to get fooled again?

                                          POTD!

                                          Do I get any credit for the setup?

                                          The Brad

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