Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO
-
@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
wrote on 31 May 2020, 13:59 last edited by@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
Look at the assessed contributions.
Holy moly!
-
@Axtremus said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
Maybe the Chinese will step up and replace the funding.
Either China or the other member countries who receive largesse from China may step up and take over the WHO. You can expect the same to happen to many more international organizations as the USA withdraw from more and more of them. When the USA leave an international organization, we leave a leadership vacuum, and the "next guy" will fill it ... that "next guy" right now is China.
that "next guy" right now is China?
https://www.who.int/images/default-source/infographics/budget/top-20.jpg
wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:51 last edited by@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
-
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 16:32 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
-
wrote on 31 May 2020, 16:36 last edited by
I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?
Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.
-
wrote on 31 May 2020, 16:52 last edited by
Who does that?
-
I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?
Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 18:00 last edited by@xenon said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
I saw the WHO towing the China line on Taiwan - what are the other examples of influences and disparities of influence?
Genuine question - I don’t know much about WHO except that they do a bunch of public health things in poor countries.
And the U.S. will continue to do that. The CDC is crying for money...
-
wrote on 31 May 2020, 19:10 last edited by
-
wrote on 31 May 2020, 19:11 last edited by
Looks like all they really need is Bill Gates.
-
wrote on 31 May 2020, 20:30 last edited by
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
-
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
wrote on 31 May 2020, 20:49 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
-
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:58 last edited by@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.
Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:
Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.
Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)
-
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 02:05 last edited by@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
-
@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.
Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:
Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.
Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 02:17 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.
Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:
Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.
Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)
And how do they see him at his worst? What media helps form that opinion?
-
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 02:37 last edited by@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
POTD!
-
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 14:21 last edited by
I think the determination about what "most common people around the world" think about Trump is clouded by your own personal opinion.
-
@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
POTD!
-
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 14:27 last edited by
My wife tells me that Chinese folk think we're one step away from anarchy, because racism. I think as one zooms out and is less personally involved with a society, the narrative driven by the MSM about that society becomes more and more the truth.
-
@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
POTD!
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 14:39 last edited by@89th said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
POTD!
Do I get any credit for the setup?
-
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Loki said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@Copper said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
that "next guy" right now is China?
Yes, I think for sure that China will increase their funding 1000+% as a way to show their nose at the US.
Why would one think that giving the most money buys you influence? Doesn’t seem to be working out for the US.
The mainland Chinese have been very strong in trying to use money to get influence over the past 20 years or so. Lots of infrastructure projects in Africa and SE Asia for example. They will give no interest (or forgive) loans to build infrastructure. The countries are required to use mainland Chinese contractors and companies and then they are tied to the Chinese for spare parts, upgrades, etc.
Re: why it does not seem to be working for the US:
Part of it is that countries have taken for granted what the US have given to them over the years. Like many things, at first it is a bonus and looked at with favor, but over time, it becomes an entitlement.
Another reason is the for most common people around the world, President Trump is not really admired. And since he represents the US, by this reasoning, the common people have lost some admiration for the US. (And please do not say that I am anti Trump and that is the only reason I am saying this. Most common people around the world only see President Trump at his worse, making goofy statements, etc. and this forms their opinion)
And how do they see him at his worst? What media helps form that opinion?
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 14:42 last edited by@Jolly said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
And how do they see him at his worst? What media helps form that opinion?
That is true. They are receiving their news from local sources, but I think those local sources are sourcing the information from other places.
However, to say or assume that the news media is liberal bias against President Trump everywhere around the world is a bit of a "long stretch".
The personality and image of President Trump does not go over very well in many parts of Asia. That is probably more of a cultural bias than a liberal or conservative bias.
-
@89th said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
POTD!
Do I get any credit for the setup?
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 14:52 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@89th said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@George-K said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to Withdraw the USA from the WHO:
What did Daltry do to piss Trump off?
He doesn't want to get fooled again?
POTD!
Do I get any credit for the setup?
Yes! 10% of all winnings.
