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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Jolly said in Not a riot:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

    They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

    You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

    I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

    Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

    I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

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    A Former User
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    #139

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

    @Jolly said in Not a riot:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

    They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

    You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

    I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

    Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

    I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

    My son is city PD. Graveyard for 4 years straight. "south" side of town. He got burned out long ago. Still plugging away though. Must be the jarhead in him. He does have a young family to support. He runs when he's off. For miles. He'll be 35 in two days and that means he will take off, early on his birthday morning, and run 35 miles that day. His shift and area will change one day, but he doesn't fight it. He accepts what they assigned and hasn't gotten into trouble yet in his four short years. But he is withdrawn. He has dealt with too much too often and has just basically given up hope for mankind. But I'm so dammed proud of him.
    But anyways, the reason for the reply is to ponder the possibilities of "drone" cops that are utilized when needed. Robocops! Is it the future?

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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #140

      Graveyards will mess with your head, or at least they do that for me. Maybe he needs to start looking around a bit...With his veteran's points, he might get on with the Feds. Some interesting LE jobs there.

      My wife's first cousin was U.S. Marshal of the Year, a few years back. He runs a fugitive apprehension team. For the most part, he enjoys his job.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #141

        It’s not a riot! It’s a shopping spree.

        Big discounts on Dodge Charger Hellcats, everybody! https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-muscle-cars-stolen-george-floyd-riots-san-leandro-california/

        The Brad

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #142

          Speaking of "Not a riot" someone counted the way words are used on the MSM news (can't find the reference now)

          MSNBC:
          "Protest" - 52
          "Riot" - 0

          NBC:
          "Protest" - 41
          "Riot" - 0

          FOX:
          "Protest" - 21
          "Riot" - 23

          Draw your own conclusions.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • ? A Former User

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            @Jolly said in Not a riot:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

            You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

            I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

            Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

            I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

            My son is city PD. Graveyard for 4 years straight. "south" side of town. He got burned out long ago. Still plugging away though. Must be the jarhead in him. He does have a young family to support. He runs when he's off. For miles. He'll be 35 in two days and that means he will take off, early on his birthday morning, and run 35 miles that day. His shift and area will change one day, but he doesn't fight it. He accepts what they assigned and hasn't gotten into trouble yet in his four short years. But he is withdrawn. He has dealt with too much too often and has just basically given up hope for mankind. But I'm so dammed proud of him.
            But anyways, the reason for the reply is to ponder the possibilities of "drone" cops that are utilized when needed. Robocops! Is it the future?

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua LetiferA Offline
            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #143

            @nobodyssock said in Not a riot:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            @Jolly said in Not a riot:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

            They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.

            You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.

            I am too old. But I don't need a job. Besides, I've already had bullets coming through the windows of my workplace. I've been attacked with a knife in the hallway.

            Time for you to have a little excitement. Would be great background for a book...

            I'm good. Burnout's a big problem in the profession and it's not my thing anyway.

            My son is city PD. Graveyard for 4 years straight. "south" side of town. He got burned out long ago. Still plugging away though. Must be the jarhead in him. He does have a young family to support. He runs when he's off. For miles. He'll be 35 in two days and that means he will take off, early on his birthday morning, and run 35 miles that day. His shift and area will change one day, but he doesn't fight it. He accepts what they assigned and hasn't gotten into trouble yet in his four short years. But he is withdrawn. He has dealt with too much too often and has just basically given up hope for mankind. But I'm so dammed proud of him.

            I used to run like that. Well, sort of; 35 miles is metal as fuck. I did 11-13 a day, every day, no breaks. Also skipped a lot of rope and did kettles.

            You do 35 miles a day, you're either a total mileage junkie (and I know a few like that) or you've got something else going on. Good on your son. It's an impossibly difficult job at the best of times.

            Please love yourself.

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            • George KG George K

              Speaking of "Not a riot" someone counted the way words are used on the MSM news (can't find the reference now)

              MSNBC:
              "Protest" - 52
              "Riot" - 0

              NBC:
              "Protest" - 41
              "Riot" - 0

              FOX:
              "Protest" - 21
              "Riot" - 23

              Draw your own conclusions.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #144

              @George-K said in Not a riot:

              Speaking of "Not a riot" someone counted the way words are used on the MSM news (can't find the reference now)

              MSNBC:
              "Protest" - 52
              "Riot" - 0

              NBC:
              "Protest" - 41
              "Riot" - 0

              FOX:
              "Protest" - 21
              "Riot" - 23

              Draw your own conclusions.

              Why are you trying to categorize it as either/or? You do know that the crowds at night are very different from the daytime, right?

              Please love yourself.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #145

                It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • HoraceH Online
                  HoraceH Online
                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #146

                  Informative in the sense that it confirms predictions any reasonable person would make about the relative usage of the two words in left- vs right-leaning news sources.

                  I suspect people's inner dialogues are shifting right, even if left-leaning news sources aren't.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #147

                    My inner dialogues aren't shifting anywhere of the sort, although I must admit I hear the word 'Canada' a lot more than I used to.

                    I was only joking

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #148

                      I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

                      My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                      Now we see if it had any positive effect.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

                        My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                        Now we see if it had any positive effect.

                        HoraceH Online
                        HoraceH Online
                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #149

                        @Mik said in Not a riot:

                        Now we see if it had any positive effect.

                        No we don't. We have no reasonable measures to judge by.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Offline
                          MikM Offline
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #150

                          Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #151

                            “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #152

                              I think it needs to be expanded to deaths in police custody period.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                                HoraceH Online
                                HoraceH Online
                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #153

                                @Mik said in Not a riot:

                                Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                                I think Copper makes some very good points when he posts stuff like that.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #154

                                  Yeah, that would be the reasonable metric. But ask anyone protesting whether that number for blacks has been rising or falling, and I bet you’ll get an answer worse than chance.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                                    HoraceH Online
                                    HoraceH Online
                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #155

                                    @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                    “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                                    Yes which makes the pool of data overwhelmed by random noise and of little significance to what it is supposedly correlated with.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

                                      My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                                      Now we see if it had any positive effect.

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #156

                                      @Mik said in Not a riot:

                                      My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                                      Not here. There were over twice as many demonstrators out by Lafayette yesterday as there were two days ago. Maybe today it'll die down some.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • T Tav D

                                        Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
                                        10 Points of Action.jpg

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                                        Catseye3
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #157

                                        @Tav-D: I got as far as #2. Couldn't stand to read any more of it.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          89th
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #158

                                          The protests will run out of steam because:

                                          1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                                          2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                                          Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

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