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Not a riot

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #146

    Informative in the sense that it confirms predictions any reasonable person would make about the relative usage of the two words in left- vs right-leaning news sources.

    I suspect people's inner dialogues are shifting right, even if left-leaning news sources aren't.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #147

      My inner dialogues aren't shifting anywhere of the sort, although I must admit I hear the word 'Canada' a lot more than I used to.

      I was only joking

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by Mik
        #148

        I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

        My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

        Now we see if it had any positive effect.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

          My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

          Now we see if it had any positive effect.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #149

          @Mik said in Not a riot:

          Now we see if it had any positive effect.

          No we don't. We have no reasonable measures to judge by.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #150

            Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #151

              “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #152

                I think it needs to be expanded to deaths in police custody period.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #153

                  @Mik said in Not a riot:

                  Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                  I think Copper makes some very good points when he posts stuff like that.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #154

                    Yeah, that would be the reasonable metric. But ask anyone protesting whether that number for blacks has been rising or falling, and I bet you’ll get an answer worse than chance.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #155

                      @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                      “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                      Yes which makes the pool of data overwhelmed by random noise and of little significance to what it is supposedly correlated with.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

                        My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                        Now we see if it had any positive effect.

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #156

                        @Mik said in Not a riot:

                        My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                        Not here. There were over twice as many demonstrators out by Lafayette yesterday as there were two days ago. Maybe today it'll die down some.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • T Tav D

                          Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
                          10 Points of Action.jpg

                          Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
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                          #157

                          @Tav-D: I got as far as #2. Couldn't stand to read any more of it.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #158

                            The protests will run out of steam because:

                            1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                            2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                            Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              It’s not a riot! It’s a shopping spree.

                              Big discounts on Dodge Charger Hellcats, everybody! https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-muscle-cars-stolen-george-floyd-riots-san-leandro-california/

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #159

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

                              It’s not a riot! It’s a shopping spree.

                              Big discounts on Dodge Charger Hellcats, everybody! https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-muscle-cars-stolen-george-floyd-riots-san-leandro-california/

                              Have to tell my DIL. She just thought she got a good price on hers.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                The protests will run out of steam because:

                                1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                                2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                                Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

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                                Aqua Letifer
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                                #160

                                @89th said in Not a riot:

                                The protests will run out of steam

                                That the protests will not last forever is the most self-evident thing about them.

                                Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

                                @89th Are you fucking serious? All of them? Just like that, we're going to judge everybody involved?

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                  Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #161

                                  @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                  It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                  Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                  To make a guess, I think they probably took the two extremes. If that be the case, NBC is lying through their teeth.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    The protests will run out of steam because:

                                    1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                                    2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                                    Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

                                    Catseye3C Offline
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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                    #162

                                    @89th: The protests will run out of steam because: The weather is getting hotter and more rainy; They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up.

                                    Yeah . . . or they remember that today's shopping day and Mom will be bringing home HoHo's and milk, and busting up TVs is getting boring, anyway.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                      It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                      Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                      To make a guess, I think they probably took the two extremes. If that be the case, NBC is lying through their teeth.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #163

                                      @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                      It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                      Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                      Found it. Apologies for misquoting it earlier:

                                      I looked at CNN news sites, and searched for "Riot"

                                      CNN showed 1023 hits on that word. Of the top 10 stores, not one used the word "riot" in the context of what is going on. One talked about police using "riot shields" and wearing "riot gear." Another talks about tear gas being a "riot control agent"

                                      CNN's "protest" search yields hundreds of stories. All related to what's going on this week.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #164

                                        It's fun to watch the right side of history being forged like this.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #165

                                          @George-K I still have the same question for you, so I'll put it another way:

                                          Why would it make sense to call the fires set to cars and businesses after curfew in DC a "protest"?

                                          Why would it make sense to call the demonstration that took place outside St. John's a "riot"?

                                          Please love yourself.

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