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Not a riot

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #145

    It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

    Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #146

      Informative in the sense that it confirms predictions any reasonable person would make about the relative usage of the two words in left- vs right-leaning news sources.

      I suspect people's inner dialogues are shifting right, even if left-leaning news sources aren't.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #147

        My inner dialogues aren't shifting anywhere of the sort, although I must admit I hear the word 'Canada' a lot more than I used to.

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #148

          I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

          My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

          Now we see if it had any positive effect.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

            My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

            Now we see if it had any positive effect.

            HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #149

            @Mik said in Not a riot:

            Now we see if it had any positive effect.

            No we don't. We have no reasonable measures to judge by.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #150

              Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #151

                “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #152

                  I think it needs to be expanded to deaths in police custody period.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #153

                    @Mik said in Not a riot:

                    Copper, how did you hijack Horace's ID?

                    I think Copper makes some very good points when he posts stuff like that.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #154

                      Yeah, that would be the reasonable metric. But ask anyone protesting whether that number for blacks has been rising or falling, and I bet you’ll get an answer worse than chance.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #155

                        @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                        “Number of viral videos of cops killing black people” is the one that matters in practice.

                        Yes which makes the pool of data overwhelmed by random noise and of little significance to what it is supposedly correlated with.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I don't know. There are marches being organized out here in the burbs, in a heavily GOP county. Now whether that is solidarity or trying to prevent it from coming here I do not know.

                          My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                          Now we see if it had any positive effect.

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #156

                          @Mik said in Not a riot:

                          My take on it is the demonstrations are running out of steam. At least they are here.

                          Not here. There were over twice as many demonstrators out by Lafayette yesterday as there were two days ago. Maybe today it'll die down some.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • T Tav D

                            Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
                            10 Points of Action.jpg

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #157

                            @Tav-D: I got as far as #2. Couldn't stand to read any more of it.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #158

                              The protests will run out of steam because:

                              1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                              2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                              Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                It’s not a riot! It’s a shopping spree.

                                Big discounts on Dodge Charger Hellcats, everybody! https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-muscle-cars-stolen-george-floyd-riots-san-leandro-california/

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #159

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

                                It’s not a riot! It’s a shopping spree.

                                Big discounts on Dodge Charger Hellcats, everybody! https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-muscle-cars-stolen-george-floyd-riots-san-leandro-california/

                                Have to tell my DIL. She just thought she got a good price on hers.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  The protests will run out of steam because:

                                  1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                                  2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                                  Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                                  #160

                                  @89th said in Not a riot:

                                  The protests will run out of steam

                                  That the protests will not last forever is the most self-evident thing about them.

                                  Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

                                  @89th Are you fucking serious? All of them? Just like that, we're going to judge everybody involved?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                    Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #161

                                    @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                    It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                    Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                    To make a guess, I think they probably took the two extremes. If that be the case, NBC is lying through their teeth.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      The protests will run out of steam because:

                                      1. The weather is getting hotter and more rainy
                                      2. They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up

                                      Again, lemmings seeking catharsis.

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                      #162

                                      @89th: The protests will run out of steam because: The weather is getting hotter and more rainy; They don't have a finish line to run towards, eventually folks will give up.

                                      Yeah . . . or they remember that today's shopping day and Mom will be bringing home HoHo's and milk, and busting up TVs is getting boring, anyway.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                        It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                        Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                        To make a guess, I think they probably took the two extremes. If that be the case, NBC is lying through their teeth.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        #163

                                        @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                        It’s informative, assuming they didn’t cherry pick the times.

                                        Or exclude CBS and ABC because it ran counter to the point they wanted to make.

                                        Found it. Apologies for misquoting it earlier:

                                        I looked at CNN news sites, and searched for "Riot"

                                        CNN showed 1023 hits on that word. Of the top 10 stores, not one used the word "riot" in the context of what is going on. One talked about police using "riot shields" and wearing "riot gear." Another talks about tear gas being a "riot control agent"

                                        CNN's "protest" search yields hundreds of stories. All related to what's going on this week.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #164

                                          It's fun to watch the right side of history being forged like this.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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