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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

    I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

    It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

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    @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

    @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

    I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

    It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

    That argument's way too complex for national politics.

    I was only joking

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

      I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

      It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

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      #7

      @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

      Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work

      There are a lot of people in this world who have crime as a full time job.

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        Horace
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        I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #9

          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

          I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

          No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

          Please love yourself.

          HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

            I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

            No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

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            #10

            @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

            @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

            I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

            No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

            I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #11

              As Aqua said, downstream of social and economic forces. It can be one’s best option. When I graduated puter school there were no jobs. None. So I went back to trafficking for a few months. It got me through until something opened up and I dropped it like a hot rock.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                Please love yourself.

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                • MikM Mik

                  As Aqua said, downstream of social and economic forces. It can be one’s best option. When I graduated puter school there were no jobs. None. So I went back to trafficking for a few months. It got me through until something opened up and I dropped it like a hot rock.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @mik said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                  When I graduated puter school there were no jobs.

                  Back when you graduated puter school I rather doubt there were any puters.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                    No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                    I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                    Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

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                    Horace
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                    #14

                    @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                    No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                    I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                    Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                    So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @mik said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                      When I graduated puter school there were no jobs.

                      Back when you graduated puter school I rather doubt there were any puters.

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                        Mik
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                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                          No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                          I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                          Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                          So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #17

                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                          Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                          Please love yourself.

                          HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                            So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                            Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                            @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                            So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                            Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                            I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                              Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                              I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.

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                              kluurs
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                              @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.

                              It may go into their permanent file. No erasing that.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                                No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                                I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

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                                Renauda
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                                #20

                                @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime willful flatuence in public. In some cultures or families more than others.

                                FIFY

                                Elbows up!

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