Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 11:32 last edited by
“What we must also recognize is that the reduction in policing currently in our city, and the lawlessness that is happening is due to two things,” Omar claimed. “One, the police have chosen to not fulfill their oath of office and to provide the public safety they are owed to the citizens they serve, right? It’s documented. But even before that, it was documented. The Minneapolis Police Department is the most dysfunctional police department, in our state and probably in the country.”
“The second part is that there has to be accountability,” Omar continued. “And someone that is actually taking responsibility for what the police does invest in to. And that doesn’t exist in this moment. And I do believe that the current charter that we have, that’s tied the hands of those who want to have that accountability, because we are mandated to have a specific amount of policing, we are mandated to, you know, have the kind of these union contracts that we have right now. I don’t know any other big city in the state of Minnesota that has the charter that we have, it just doesn’t exist.”
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 11:36 last edited by
You can't make this stuff up...
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 12:30 last edited by
Minneapolis elected her. They deserve what they get.
No sympathy here.
Detroit smiles.
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 12:43 last edited by
I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals. She started the 2nd reason with "we need accountability", oh but not by the criminals, by the leadership. What a maroon. Reminds me of AOC...letting someone with immature bar room political opinions play politician.
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I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals. She started the 2nd reason with "we need accountability", oh but not by the criminals, by the leadership. What a maroon. Reminds me of AOC...letting someone with immature bar room political opinions play politician.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:32 last edited by@89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.
It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.
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@89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.
It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:41 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.
It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.
That argument's way too complex for national politics.
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@89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.
It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:42 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work
There are a lot of people in this world who have crime as a full time job.
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:43 last edited by
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
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I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:44 last edited by@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
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@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:46 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 13:59 last edited by Mik
As Aqua said, downstream of social and economic forces. It can be one’s best option. When I graduated puter school there were no jobs. None. So I went back to trafficking for a few months. It got me through until something opened up and I dropped it like a hot rock.
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@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 14:01 last edited by Aqua Letifer@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.
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As Aqua said, downstream of social and economic forces. It can be one’s best option. When I graduated puter school there were no jobs. None. So I went back to trafficking for a few months. It got me through until something opened up and I dropped it like a hot rock.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 14:30 last edited by@mik said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
When I graduated puter school there were no jobs.
Back when you graduated puter school I rather doubt there were any puters.
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@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 14:42 last edited by Horace@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.
So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.
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@mik said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
When I graduated puter school there were no jobs.
Back when you graduated puter school I rather doubt there were any puters.
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wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 15:02 last edited by
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@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.
So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 15:53 last edited by@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.
Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.
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@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.
Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 16:01 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.
Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.
I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.
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@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.
Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.
I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 16:29 last edited by@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.
It may go into their permanent file. No erasing that.
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@aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.
No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.
wrote on 27 Oct 2021, 16:31 last edited by@horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:
I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing
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