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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    “What we must also recognize is that the reduction in policing currently in our city, and the lawlessness that is happening is due to two things,” Omar claimed. “One, the police have chosen to not fulfill their oath of office and to provide the public safety they are owed to the citizens they serve, right? It’s documented. But even before that, it was documented. The Minneapolis Police Department is the most dysfunctional police department, in our state and probably in the country.”

    “The second part is that there has to be accountability,” Omar continued. “And someone that is actually taking responsibility for what the police does invest in to. And that doesn’t exist in this moment. And I do believe that the current charter that we have, that’s tied the hands of those who want to have that accountability, because we are mandated to have a specific amount of policing, we are mandated to, you know, have the kind of these union contracts that we have right now. I don’t know any other big city in the state of Minnesota that has the charter that we have, it just doesn’t exist.”

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      You can't make this stuff up...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • ImprovisoI Offline
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        Improviso
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        Minneapolis elected her. They deserve what they get.

        No sympathy here.

        Detroit smiles.

        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals. She started the 2nd reason with "we need accountability", oh but not by the criminals, by the leadership. What a maroon. Reminds me of AOC...letting someone with immature bar room political opinions play politician.

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          • 89th8 89th

            I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals. She started the 2nd reason with "we need accountability", oh but not by the criminals, by the leadership. What a maroon. Reminds me of AOC...letting someone with immature bar room political opinions play politician.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
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            #5

            @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

            I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

            It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

              I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

              It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #6

              @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

              @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

              I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

              It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

              That argument's way too complex for national politics.

              I was only joking

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @89th said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                I love how the 2 reasons for an increase in crime.... do not include the criminals.

                It shouldn't. Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work. Crime is never crime per se; it's always downstream of social forces.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                #7

                @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                Omar's a moron but so is anyone who thinks crime increases are the result of X number of bad people waking up one morning and deciding to do some crime instead of going to work

                There are a lot of people in this world who have crime as a full time job.

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
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                  I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                  Education is extremely important.

                  Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                  • HoraceH Horace

                    I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #9

                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                    I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                    No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                      I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                      No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                      HoraceH Online
                      HoraceH Online
                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                      @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                      I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                      No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                      I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        #11

                        As Aqua said, downstream of social and economic forces. It can be one’s best option. When I graduated puter school there were no jobs. None. So I went back to trafficking for a few months. It got me through until something opened up and I dropped it like a hot rock.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                          No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                          I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                          #12

                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                          I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                          No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                          I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                          Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                          Please love yourself.

                          HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                          • MikM Mik

                            As Aqua said, downstream of social and economic forces. It can be one’s best option. When I graduated puter school there were no jobs. None. So I went back to trafficking for a few months. It got me through until something opened up and I dropped it like a hot rock.

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #13

                            @mik said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                            When I graduated puter school there were no jobs.

                            Back when you graduated puter school I rather doubt there were any puters.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                              No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                              I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                              Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                              HoraceH Online
                              HoraceH Online
                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by Horace
                              #14

                              @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                              I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                              No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                              I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                              Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                              So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @mik said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                When I graduated puter school there were no jobs.

                                Back when you graduated puter school I rather doubt there were any puters.

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                                Catseye3
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                                  Mik
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                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                    I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                                    No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                                    I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                                    Sure does. To a point. And provided society's working as it should in about a dozen ways that influence crime rates.

                                    So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #17

                                    @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                    So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                                    Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                                    Please love yourself.

                                    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                      So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                                      Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                                      HoraceH Online
                                      HoraceH Online
                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                      @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                      So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                                      Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                                      I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.

                                      Education is extremely important.

                                      kluursK 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                        @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                        So, shame is not a non-factor, and in a politician's messaging, it's not undue to include some of that, against the criminals.

                                        Next time you get held up, give shame-as-strategy a try and let me know how it turns out.

                                        I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.

                                        kluursK Offline
                                        kluursK Offline
                                        kluurs
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                                        @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                        I will write their parents a strongly worded letter.

                                        It may go into their permanent file. No erasing that.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                          I thought relentless shaming was a tool we use to prevent bad people from doing bad things. Maybe I was only thinking of the vaccination conversations.

                                          No, you're right, it applies there, too. How's that working out, by the way?

                                          I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime. In some cultures or families more than others.

                                          RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
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                                          @horace said in Rep. Omar blames crime spike on...the police:

                                          I am sure shame plays a large role in preventing crime willful flatuence in public. In some cultures or families more than others.

                                          FIFY

                                          Elbows up!

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