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    George K
    wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 16:46 last edited by
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    https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/prop-gun-used-by-alec-baldwin-in-shooting-contained-live-round-union/

    The prop gun Alec Baldwin used in the accidental shooting that killed a cinematographer on his upcoming movie “Rust” and wounded the director reportedly contained a “live round.”

    A union that covers prop masters sent an email to its members Friday morning in which it said “a single live round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor,” according to Indie Wire.

    Anthony Pawluc, secretary-treasurer of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees Local 44, wrote that the bullet struck “both the Director of Photography, Local 600 member Halnya Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza,” the site reported.

    “Local 44 has confirmed that the Props, Set Decoration, Special Effects and Construction Departments were staffed by New Mexico crew members. There were no Local 44 members on the call sheet,” the email cited by Indie Wire added.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      89th
      wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 18:30 last edited by
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      Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious if there's any video footage of the incident. Since it killed a crew member, I'm guessing they did not have cameras rolling.

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        George K
        wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 18:32 last edited by
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        Can anyone explain why there is any live ammunition on a movie set?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          22 Oct 2021, 18:32

          Can anyone explain why there is any live ammunition on a movie set?

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          89th
          wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 18:59 last edited by
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          @george-k No, that is the million dollar question. There are really 3 options, in order of probability:

          1. They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
          2. Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
          3. Someone set up Alec, big time.
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            22 Oct 2021, 18:59

            @george-k No, that is the million dollar question. There are really 3 options, in order of probability:

            1. They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
            2. Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
            3. Someone set up Alec, big time.
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            Catseye3
            wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:05 last edited by
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            @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

            To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

            As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:07 last edited by
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              Somebody call Angela Lansbury…

              The Brad

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                22 Oct 2021, 19:05

                @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

                As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

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                89th
                wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:08 last edited by
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                @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                Link to video

                Keanu did this to practice for John Wick. Not saying it happened her because its... Alec Baldwin, but still... maybe.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:14 last edited by
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                  They said earlier it occurred while filming.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    22 Oct 2021, 19:05

                    @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                    To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

                    As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:15 last edited by
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                    @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                    @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                    Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:17 last edited by
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                      Baldwin-730x0.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        22 Oct 2021, 19:15

                        @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                        @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                        Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:21 last edited by
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                        @aqua-letifer said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                        Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

                        I don't know about that, but I'll bet actors will check the quote-unquote firearms THEMSELVES from now on before a take.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:22 last edited by
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                          For a while. Then the memory will fade.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            22 Oct 2021, 19:22

                            For a while. Then the memory will fade.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:22 last edited by
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                            @mik said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                            For a while. Then the memory will fade.

                            Yep. Like in '93.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 20:27 last edited by
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                              @89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                              They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
                              Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
                              Someone set up Alec, big time.

                              1. There may be real guns on set, but there should never, ever, ever, be real rounds o a movie set.
                              2. Absolute bullshit. A .45 LC blank: alt text

                              Or, you can seat a cardboard or fiber wad over the powder charge. In either case, there is no bullet visible at the end of the case.
                              3. Maybe. That would certainly be interesting.
                              4. Or maybe somebody was screwing around on set, popping tin cans, etc. That should never happen and would be a big no-no.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                22 Oct 2021, 20:27

                                @89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
                                Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
                                Someone set up Alec, big time.

                                1. There may be real guns on set, but there should never, ever, ever, be real rounds o a movie set.
                                2. Absolute bullshit. A .45 LC blank: alt text

                                Or, you can seat a cardboard or fiber wad over the powder charge. In either case, there is no bullet visible at the end of the case.
                                3. Maybe. That would certainly be interesting.
                                4. Or maybe somebody was screwing around on set, popping tin cans, etc. That should never happen and would be a big no-no.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 21:37 last edited by
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                                @jolly you realize to the average uninformed person those TOTALLY look like normal bullets.

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 21:40 last edited by
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                                  Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

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                                  • K Klaus
                                    22 Oct 2021, 21:40

                                    Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 21:47 last edited by
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                                    @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                    Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

                                    Depends on the prop.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      22 Oct 2021, 21:40

                                      Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 21:56 last edited by
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                                      @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                      Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

                                      Amateur question here: Why would a prop gun have a firing pin?

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        22 Oct 2021, 21:56

                                        @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                        Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

                                        Amateur question here: Why would a prop gun have a firing pin?

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 22:00 last edited by
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                                        @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                        Amateur question here: Why would a prop gun have a firing pin?

                                        Amateur answer here: Because you'd need it to "fire" a blank?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          22 Oct 2021, 22:00

                                          @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                          Amateur question here: Why would a prop gun have a firing pin?

                                          Amateur answer here: Because you'd need it to "fire" a blank?

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 22:03 last edited by
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                                          @george-k Yes, some way to propel it . . . but couldn't it be some mechanism that was not configured to strike the middle part of a real bullet? Something more like a little paddle?

                                          'K, I'll stop talking now.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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