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    Klaus
    wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 05:43 last edited by
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    I wonder why they have a loaded gun on a film set.

    It's not clear to me from the few details I read whether this was a normal real gun or some kind of fake gun. If the latter, why is it possible to shoot somebody with it?

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 10:29 last edited by
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      Horrible. I couldn’t imagine going through what Baldwin is.

      @89th It’s happened before. Brandon Lee, for one…

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        Jolly
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        Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          22 Oct 2021, 10:54

          Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

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          Klaus
          wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 11:24 last edited by
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          @jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

          Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

          That advice would be difficult to follow as an actor for a Western movie.

          That said, it's curious that he killed somebody who is not an actor. Bad aim?

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 11:27 last edited by
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            Catsye ➡ Waiting for Marjorie Taylor Greene to come shrieking down the chimney to pronouce this event retribution from God on Baldwin for his mockery of Trump on SNL.

            But yes, it is horrible.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              22 Oct 2021, 11:24

              @jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

              Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

              That advice would be difficult to follow as an actor for a Western movie.

              That said, it's curious that he killed somebody who is not an actor. Bad aim?

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 11:58 last edited by
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              @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

              @jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

              Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

              That advice would be difficult to follow as an actor for a Western movie.

              That said, it's curious that he killed somebody who is not an actor. Bad aim?

              If it's a prop gun, presumably it's not actually designed to shoot, so something lodged in the barrel could come out at an angle?

              I was only joking

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                22 Oct 2021, 10:29

                Horrible. I couldn’t imagine going through what Baldwin is.

                @89th It’s happened before. Brandon Lee, for one…

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                89th
                wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 12:00 last edited by
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                @lufins-dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                Horrible. I couldn’t imagine going through what Baldwin is.

                @89th It’s happened before. Brandon Lee, for one…

                I know, I think there was another person in the 80s too.

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                • K Klaus
                  22 Oct 2021, 05:43

                  I wonder why they have a loaded gun on a film set.

                  It's not clear to me from the few details I read whether this was a normal real gun or some kind of fake gun. If the latter, why is it possible to shoot somebody with it?

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                  89th
                  wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 12:01 last edited by
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                  @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                  I wonder why they have a loaded gun on a film set.

                  It's not clear to me from the few details I read whether this was a normal real gun or some kind of fake gun. If the latter, why is it possible to shoot somebody with it?

                  My guess is he was horsing around with what he thought was a prop gun. Agreed it makes sense prop guns can even be loaded, although I'm sure the ones they use now fire real flash/bang actions. But still...an actual bullet you think would not be possible to load.

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                    22 Oct 2021, 11:58

                    @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                    @jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                    Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

                    That advice would be difficult to follow as an actor for a Western movie.

                    That said, it's curious that he killed somebody who is not an actor. Bad aim?

                    If it's a prop gun, presumably it's not actually designed to shoot, so something lodged in the barrel could come out at an angle?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 14:38 last edited by
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                    @doctor-phibes said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                    @klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                    @jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                    Never point a gun, loaded or unloaded, at anything you don't intend to kill.

                    That advice would be difficult to follow as an actor for a Western movie.

                    That said, it's curious that he killed somebody who is not an actor. Bad aim?

                    If it's a prop gun, presumably it's not actually designed to shoot, so something lodged in the barrel could come out at an angle?

                    Prop guns many times are made from rubber or plastic. For it to fire, it's probably a working firearm. The question is, what was the projectile?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      George K
                      wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 16:46 last edited by
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                      https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/prop-gun-used-by-alec-baldwin-in-shooting-contained-live-round-union/

                      The prop gun Alec Baldwin used in the accidental shooting that killed a cinematographer on his upcoming movie “Rust” and wounded the director reportedly contained a “live round.”

                      A union that covers prop masters sent an email to its members Friday morning in which it said “a single live round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor,” according to Indie Wire.

                      Anthony Pawluc, secretary-treasurer of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees Local 44, wrote that the bullet struck “both the Director of Photography, Local 600 member Halnya Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza,” the site reported.

                      “Local 44 has confirmed that the Props, Set Decoration, Special Effects and Construction Departments were staffed by New Mexico crew members. There were no Local 44 members on the call sheet,” the email cited by Indie Wire added.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 18:30 last edited by
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                        Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious if there's any video footage of the incident. Since it killed a crew member, I'm guessing they did not have cameras rolling.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 18:32 last edited by
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                          Can anyone explain why there is any live ammunition on a movie set?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            22 Oct 2021, 18:32

                            Can anyone explain why there is any live ammunition on a movie set?

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                            89th
                            wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 18:59 last edited by
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                            @george-k No, that is the million dollar question. There are really 3 options, in order of probability:

                            1. They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
                            2. Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
                            3. Someone set up Alec, big time.
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                              22 Oct 2021, 18:59

                              @george-k No, that is the million dollar question. There are really 3 options, in order of probability:

                              1. They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
                              2. Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
                              3. Someone set up Alec, big time.
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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:05 last edited by
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                              @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                              To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

                              As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:07 last edited by
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                                Somebody call Angela Lansbury…

                                The Brad

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                                  22 Oct 2021, 19:05

                                  @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                                  To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

                                  As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:08 last edited by
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                                  @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                  @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                                  Link to video

                                  Keanu did this to practice for John Wick. Not saying it happened her because its... Alec Baldwin, but still... maybe.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:14 last edited by
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                                    They said earlier it occurred while filming.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      22 Oct 2021, 19:05

                                      @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                                      To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

                                      As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:15 last edited by
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                                      @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                      @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                                      Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:17 last edited by
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                                        Baldwin-730x0.jpeg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          22 Oct 2021, 19:15

                                          @catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                          @89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

                                          Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 22 Oct 2021, 19:21 last edited by
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                                          @aqua-letifer said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

                                          Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

                                          I don't know about that, but I'll bet actors will check the quote-unquote firearms THEMSELVES from now on before a take.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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