Alec Baldwin what the fuck

[George K]

https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/prop-gun-used-by-alec-baldwin-in-shooting-contained-live-round-union/

The prop gun Alec Baldwin used in the accidental shooting that killed a cinematographer on his upcoming movie “Rust” and wounded the director reportedly contained a “live round.”

A union that covers prop masters sent an email to its members Friday morning in which it said “a single live round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor,” according to Indie Wire.

Anthony Pawluc, secretary-treasurer of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees Local 44, wrote that the bullet struck “both the Director of Photography, Local 600 member Halnya Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza,” the site reported.

“Local 44 has confirmed that the Props, Set Decoration, Special Effects and Construction Departments were staffed by New Mexico crew members. There were no Local 44 members on the call sheet,” the email cited by Indie Wire added.

[89th]

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm curious if there's any video footage of the incident. Since it killed a crew member, I'm guessing they did not have cameras rolling.

[George K]

Can anyone explain why there is any live ammunition on a movie set?

[89th]

@george-k No, that is the million dollar question. There are really 3 options, in order of probability:

1. They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
2. Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
3. Someone set up Alec, big time.

[Catseye3]

@89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

To this day, street skells point their guns sideways thinking that's the correct and therefore kewl way to do it -- all unknowing that that positioning was the brainchild of a film director who devised it as a means of pointing the weapon without obscuring the shooter's hand.

As for the other two, I can't think about them now; my brain is shut down by the thunder of the feet of a thousand onrushing lawyers.

[LuFins Dad]

Somebody call Angela Lansbury…

[89th]

@catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

@89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

Link to video

Keanu did this to practice for John Wick. Not saying it happened her because its... Alec Baldwin, but still... maybe.

[Mik]

They said earlier it occurred while filming.

[Aqua Letifer]

@catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

@89th I don't rule any of these out, but I can't really buy your #1. What's to practice? You point and shoot. Is there anybody who hasn't seen a movie actor do this a thousand times?

Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

[George K]

[Catseye3]

@aqua-letifer said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

Actors practice what they do. That's why it looks good in the movies.

I don't know about that, but I'll bet actors will check the quote-unquote firearms THEMSELVES from now on before a take.

[Mik]

For a while. Then the memory will fade.

[Aqua Letifer]

@mik said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

For a while. Then the memory will fade.

Yep. Like in '93.

[Jolly]

@89th said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

They practiced shooting real guns to better understand how to properly handle one in the movie.
Someone bought fake/bang bullets not realizing they were real bullets.
Someone set up Alec, big time.

1. There may be real guns on set, but there should never, ever, ever, be real rounds o a movie set.
2. Absolute bullshit. A .45 LC blank:

Or, you can seat a cardboard or fiber wad over the powder charge. In either case, there is no bullet visible at the end of the case.
3. Maybe. That would certainly be interesting.
4. Or maybe somebody was screwing around on set, popping tin cans, etc. That should never happen and would be a big no-no.

[89th]

@jolly you realize to the average uninformed person those TOTALLY look like normal bullets.

[Klaus]

Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

[Aqua Letifer]

@klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

Depends on the prop.

[Catseye3]

@klaus said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

Can a prop gun fire a real bullet if you load it with one?

Amateur question here: Why would a prop gun have a firing pin?

[George K]

@catseye3 said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:

Amateur question here: Why would a prop gun have a firing pin?

Amateur answer here: Because you'd need it to "fire" a blank?

[Catseye3]

@george-k Yes, some way to propel it . . . but couldn't it be some mechanism that was not configured to strike the middle part of a real bullet? Something more like a little paddle?

'K, I'll stop talking now.