Delta variant among the vaccinated
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@89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
Ok so of the sample size, 1.5% were hospitalized and 0.0% die.
That's still about 1 in 75 people. Good about the deaths, though.
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@george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) cycle threshold (Ct) values in specimens from 127 vaccinated persons with breakthrough cases were similar to those from 84 persons who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median = 22.77 and 21.54, respectively).
Now how do those numbers compare to unvaccinated with Delta?
@lufins-dad said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
@george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) cycle threshold (Ct) values in specimens from 127 vaccinated persons with breakthrough cases were similar to those from 84 persons who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median = 22.77 and 21.54, respectively).
Now how do those numbers compare to unvaccinated with Delta?
I was recently told about an exceptional (high viral load) case with CT=16. When I asked what was normal he said “more like 21”. Granted that was informally off the top of his head.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/vaccination-increases-states-delta-surges/
”There’s a rush to get shots that correlates with delta’s rise and hospitalizations,” …
There are signs of people previously hesitant about getting vaccinated changing their minds as they see more people getting infected and even hospitalized due to the Delta variant.
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I remember laughing at the conspiracy theorists who doubted the scientific authorities at that time. Lol what a bunch of maroons. Sociopaths with no empathy, too. Dumb, low empathy, ugly people - if there's one thing COVID has taught us, it's that they doubt science. Must be genetic.
Why can't they all just die already and leave us good people alone?
Where's my fainting couch?
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@george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
These didn't age well:
Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.
Which was true.
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@george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
These didn't age well:
Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.
Which was true.
@89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.
Which was true.I'm constantly amazed that this is what we keep hearing.
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@george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
These didn't age well:
Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.
Which was true.
@89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
You would think that a guy like Fauci would be smart enough to understand the science will, indeed, change.
To make pronouncements like that strikes me as being a little bit reckless.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
You would think that a guy like Fauci would be smart enough to understand the science will, indeed, change.
To make pronouncements like that strikes me as being a little bit reckless.
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If everyone took the vaccine we would be in a very different place.
But words and superstitions and tribalism are more important than facts and even the most obvious statement in the world will be ripped to shreds.
More important to be whatever than accurate.
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahoma-pediatric-hospital-beds-covid-19_n_6104894ee4b0f9b5a233836b
Oklahoma is running out of desperately needed pediatric hospital beds throughout the state amid rising COVID-19 cases, a surge in a separate serious respiratory illness and nursing shortages.
Some children have been sent out of state to other hospitals because of a lack of beds in Oklahoma.
Now the kids are hit hard. Yeah, the vaccines have not been approved for kids younger than 12,. That’s why it’s even more important for the grownups to get vaccinated to protect the kids they into contact with.
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If everyone took the vaccine we would be in a very different place.
But words and superstitions and tribalism are more important than facts and even the most obvious statement in the world will be ripped to shreds.
More important to be whatever than accurate.
@loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
If everyone took the vaccine we would be in a very different place.
True! Which person doesn't believe this?
But words and superstitions and tribalism are more important than facts and even the most obvious statement in the world will be ripped to shreds.
Really? Which obvious statement was ripped to shreds?
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When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.
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@loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.
Which person thinks Fauci is a more important target than COVID?
@horace said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
@loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.
Which person thinks Fauci is a more important target than COVID?
Delighted to hear I am wrong! I would say an unvaccinated person who is trashing Fauci and pumping ivermectin would fit that criteria.
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@horace said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
@loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.
Which person thinks Fauci is a more important target than COVID?
Delighted to hear I am wrong! I would say an unvaccinated person who is trashing Fauci and pumping ivermectin would fit that criteria.
@loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
@horace said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
@loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:
When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.
Which person thinks Fauci is a more important target than COVID?
Delighted to hear I am wrong!
But I didn't say you were wrong. Why did you hear me say you were wrong?
I would say an unvaccinated person who is trashing Fauci and pumping ivermectin would fit that criteria.
Who is an example of that?
I assume you mean Bret Weinstein. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) He is under the impression that Ivermectin as a preventative is equal to the vaccine. He definitely takes the virus seriously, based on everything he has actually said. I haven't heard him trash Fauci, but I'm sure you heard that. But then we're back to what you hear, vs what anybody ever actually says.
