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Delta variant among the vaccinated

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    89th
    wrote on 30 Jul 2021, 21:46 last edited by
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    Ok so of the sample size, 1.5% were hospitalized and 0.0% die.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 30 Jul 2021, 22:45 last edited by
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      @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

      time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) cycle threshold (Ct) values in specimens from 127 vaccinated persons with breakthrough cases were similar to those from 84 persons who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median = 22.77 and 21.54, respectively).

      Now how do those numbers compare to unvaccinated with Delta?

      The Brad

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      • 8 89th
        30 Jul 2021, 21:46

        Ok so of the sample size, 1.5% were hospitalized and 0.0% die.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 30 Jul 2021, 23:26 last edited by
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        @89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

        Ok so of the sample size, 1.5% were hospitalized and 0.0% die.

        That's still about 1 in 75 people. Good about the deaths, though.

        Please love yourself.

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          30 Jul 2021, 22:45

          @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

          time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) cycle threshold (Ct) values in specimens from 127 vaccinated persons with breakthrough cases were similar to those from 84 persons who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median = 22.77 and 21.54, respectively).

          Now how do those numbers compare to unvaccinated with Delta?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 10:16 last edited by
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          @lufins-dad said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

          @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

          time reverse transcription–polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) cycle threshold (Ct) values in specimens from 127 vaccinated persons with breakthrough cases were similar to those from 84 persons who were unvaccinated, not fully vaccinated, or whose vaccination status was unknown (median = 22.77 and 21.54, respectively).

          Now how do those numbers compare to unvaccinated with Delta?

          I was recently told about an exceptional (high viral load) case with CT=16. When I asked what was normal he said “more like 21”. Granted that was informally off the top of his head.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 10:50 last edited by
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            https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/vaccination-increases-states-delta-surges/

            ”There’s a rush to get shots that correlates with delta’s rise and hospitalizations,” …

            There are signs of people previously hesitant about getting vaccinated changing their minds as they see more people getting infected and even hospitalized due to the Delta variant.

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              Horace
              wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 12:20 last edited by
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              We were going to be returning to the office in a month. Delta oughta be good for keeping us home for at least the rest of 2021.

              Education is extremely important.

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                George K
                wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 12:45 last edited by
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                These didn't age well:

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 13:30 last edited by
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                  I remember laughing at the conspiracy theorists who doubted the scientific authorities at that time. Lol what a bunch of maroons. Sociopaths with no empathy, too. Dumb, low empathy, ugly people - if there's one thing COVID has taught us, it's that they doubt science. Must be genetic.

                  Why can't they all just die already and leave us good people alone?

                  Where's my fainting couch?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 13:39 last edited by
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                    FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!!!

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • G George K
                      31 Jul 2021, 12:45

                      These didn't age well:

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                      89th
                      wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 15:33 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                      These didn't age well:

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                      Misinformation, you should know better @George-K

                      He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.

                      Which was true.

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                      • 8 89th
                        31 Jul 2021, 15:33

                        @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                        These didn't age well:

                        90707039-0c22-4566-98e4-18885617a7be-image.png

                        Misinformation, you should know better @George-K

                        He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.

                        Which was true.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 16:19 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                        Misinformation, you should know better @George-K
                        He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.
                        Which was true.

                        I'm constantly amazed that this is what we keep hearing.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • 8 89th
                          31 Jul 2021, 15:33

                          @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                          These didn't age well:

                          90707039-0c22-4566-98e4-18885617a7be-image.png

                          Misinformation, you should know better @George-K

                          He said that based on the evidence and trials at that point, all 3 had been effective in that regard.

                          Which was true.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 16:35 last edited by
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                          @89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                          Misinformation, you should know better @George-K

                          You would think that a guy like Fauci would be smart enough to understand the science will, indeed, change.

                          To make pronouncements like that strikes me as being a little bit reckless.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 16:38 last edited by
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                            It's political.

                            One doesn't dwell in the depths of The Swamp for as long as Fauci has, without acquiring a maximum amount of slime. He quit being a doctor a long time ago.

                            Time for him to retire.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • G George K
                              31 Jul 2021, 16:35

                              @89th said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                              Misinformation, you should know better @George-K

                              You would think that a guy like Fauci would be smart enough to understand the science will, indeed, change.

                              To make pronouncements like that strikes me as being a little bit reckless.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 16:52 last edited by
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                              @george-k said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                              You would think that a guy like Fauci

                              If Fauci says it, cnn will make it true

                              He is well connected

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 16:55 last edited by Loki
                                #22

                                If everyone took the vaccine we would be in a very different place.

                                But words and superstitions and tribalism are more important than facts and even the most obvious statement in the world will be ripped to shreds.

                                More important to be whatever than accurate.

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 16:57 last edited by Loki
                                  #23

                                  When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 17:14 last edited by
                                    #24

                                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahoma-pediatric-hospital-beds-covid-19_n_6104894ee4b0f9b5a233836b

                                    Oklahoma is running out of desperately needed pediatric hospital beds throughout the state amid rising COVID-19 cases, a surge in a separate serious respiratory illness and nursing shortages.

                                    Some children have been sent out of state to other hospitals because of a lack of beds in Oklahoma.

                                    Now the kids are hit hard. Yeah, the vaccines have not been approved for kids younger than 12,. That’s why it’s even more important for the grownups to get vaccinated to protect the kids they into contact with.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 17:16 last edited by
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                                      How much difference does it make, when it's been shown that many of the carriers are vaccinated?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        31 Jul 2021, 16:55

                                        If everyone took the vaccine we would be in a very different place.

                                        But words and superstitions and tribalism are more important than facts and even the most obvious statement in the world will be ripped to shreds.

                                        More important to be whatever than accurate.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 17:18 last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                                        If everyone took the vaccine we would be in a very different place.

                                        True! Which person doesn't believe this?

                                        But words and superstitions and tribalism are more important than facts and even the most obvious statement in the world will be ripped to shreds.

                                        Really? Which obvious statement was ripped to shreds?

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • L Loki
                                          31 Jul 2021, 16:57

                                          When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 17:18 last edited by
                                          #27

                                          @loki said in Delta variant among the vaccinated:

                                          When Fauci is a more important target than Covid something is really really wrong with the water.

                                          Which person thinks Fauci is a more important target than COVID?

                                          Education is extremely important.

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