The question no one's been asking...

[89th]

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

Ok, so who was more important to this place, you or Larry?

Larry for sure

[taiwan_girl]

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

Ok, so who was more important to this place, you or Larry?

I think that the saying - "the total is more than each individual piece" is correct for TNCR.

The nice thing about this place is the variety of opinions and philosophies here. Anybody who leaves here causes a loss for everybody here.

So no, I dont think that @Larry is/was more important than @89th When said "coherently", both have been great additions to the board.

Larry posted a lot of interesting stuff but also alot of mean stuff. Sometimes it was quite difficult to see past the mean stuff to see the interesting stuff.

[Copper]

I demand that Larry will return.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in The question no one's been asking...:

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

Ok, so who was more important to this place, you or Larry?

I think that the saying - "the total is more than each individual piece" is correct for TNCR.

The nice thing about this place is the variety of opinions and philosophies here. Anybody who leaves here causes a loss for everybody here.

So no, I dont think that @Larry is/was more important than @89th When said "coherently", both have been great additions to the board.

Larry posted a lot of interesting stuff but also alot of mean stuff. Sometimes it was quite difficult to see past the mean stuff to see the interesting stuff.

Not getting into a pissing match, but just pointing out some cold, hard facts...Participation drives boards like this. The less participation you have, the sooner they wither and die. Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights. Same for just about any place when it comes to core groups...Look across the fence and ask yourself how long they would survive in any interesting form, if wtg, Steve Miller, Quirt and Nina all decided to head for the exits.

[George K]

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

.Participation drives boards like this

Look at Fat Shirley's. Supposedly, it's the board that @Larry owns. He hasn't posted there in months...years?

AFAICT, there are about....3 active users there. I breeze by every day and see nothing new and walk away.

ETA: I really miss a lot of the old folks from "back then." It's great to see @jodi , @taiwan_girl and others more active. I just hope it doesn't end.

[Jolly]

@george-k said in The question no one's been asking...:

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

.Participation drives boards like this

Look at Fat Shirley's. Supposedly, it's the board that @Larry owns. He hasn't posted there in months...years?

AFAICT, there are about....3 active users there. I breeze by every day and see nothing new and walk away.

ETA: I really miss a lot of the old folks from "back then." It's great to see @jodi , @taiwan_girl and others more active. I just hope it doesn't end.

I enjoy them, too. Jodi is a smart person and TG is just flat cute.

[Jolly]

@george-k said in The question no one's been asking...:

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

.Participation drives boards like this

Look at Fat Shirley's. Supposedly, it's the board that @Larry owns. He hasn't posted there in months...years?

AFAICT, there are about....3 active users there. I breeze by every day and see nothing new and walk away.

ETA: I really miss a lot of the old folks from "back then." It's great to see @jodi , @taiwan_girl and others more active. I just hope it doesn't end.

Another riff off of this one...I'd love for the guys over there to move over here and have invited them.

[George K]

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

I'd love for the guys over there to move over here

Frank W
Frank M
TCMOD (remember him??)
Spelvin

[Mik]

Jgoo, Riley, Sue, lots of others.

[89th]

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

Not getting into a pissing match, but just pointing out some cold, hard facts...Participation drives boards like this. The less participation you have, the sooner they wither and die. Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights. Same for just about any place when it comes to core groups...Look across the fence and ask yourself how long they would survive in any interesting form, if wtg, Steve Miller, Quirt and Nina all decided to head for the exits.

I agree with this. This place obviously thrives off of the primary activity of a number of you, and I hope Larry comes back.

That being said, he left for his own reasons. If you re-read my posts, I think they’re pretty logical and calm…and don’t come even remotely close to the intensity we’ve seen in previous debates over the past 10-20 years.

You implied I (and others?) only became active recently to bash Trump, which isn’t true. I returned in Feb 2020 when COVID allowed me to work from home more whereas my job since 2012 has prevented access to forum-related sites, which (combined with getting married and having kids) really hindered my activity here.

Sure, the main news stories of 2020 resulted in discussions about how I thought Trump fumbled the pandemic, and also clearly lost the election in a landslide, and spewed enough lies that resulted in the Jan 6th chaos. To be frank, many of those replies were to counter positions you and Larry held about the election results. I also said repeatedly I thought Trump did a number of great things for conservatives during his tenure, too. My positions, IMO, are not driven by political party stances, but are pretty independent in nature. I’d be saying the same thing whether it was Obama or Trump in office.

Anyway… as I said before I hope Larry returns. With my recent move to MN behind me, I hope to become more regularly active here and to add some value to this special place.

[Mik]

All for it!

[Aqua Letifer]

Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights.

Do it tomorrow, I don't give a shit.

This board stopped being about the board, and the people within it started becoming more important for me a long, long time ago. If this platform went dark for good tomorrow, I still have plenty of ways to stay in contact with the folks who make this place what it is for me.

[Mik]

True, dat.

[Loki]

Any investment in time has to be worth it. It used to be that people used to enjoy debating ideas. Now ideological purity and echo chambers reign supreme. I don’t enjoy either but clearly a diverse ecosystem is a shrinking market everywhere.

It’s too bad. Lots of really interesting stuff gets introduced here and it appears those that left have better things to do with their time. It kind of sounds like the remaining people need to get ready for that day. I hope not but having a plan b is always a good idea.

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in The question no one's been asking...:

Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights.

Do it tomorrow, I don't give a shit.

This board stopped being about the board, and the people within it started becoming more important for me a long, long time ago. If this platform went dark for good tomorrow, I still have plenty of ways to stay in contact with the folks who make this place what it is for me.

Then, fuck off.

Participation by whomever is welcome, but nobody came busting down your door making you come here, so don't give me that holier-than-thou-I-am-above-the-fray horseshit.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

@aqua-letifer said in The question no one's been asking...:

Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights.

Do it tomorrow, I don't give a shit.

This board stopped being about the board, and the people within it started becoming more important for me a long, long time ago. If this platform went dark for good tomorrow, I still have plenty of ways to stay in contact with the folks who make this place what it is for me.

Then, fuck off.

I do, from time to time.

Participation by whomever is welcome, but nobody came busting down your door making you come here, so don't give me that holier-than-thou-I-am-above-the-fray horseshit.

I'll do that when you stop trying to rank-ordering members of an internet board in order of how more or less important you think they are.

[Catseye3]

I am cancelling out Jolly's invitation to Aqua to leave. Aqua's posts are among the most substantive and interesting of all the messages posted here.

[George K]

@catseye3 said in The question no one's been asking...:

Aqua's posts are among the most substantive and interesting of all the messages posted here.

Other than my "Hey, Cats! Your AOC post of the day..."

Right?

[Catseye3]

@george-k said in The question no one's been asking...:

Other than my "Hey, Cats! Your AOC post of the day..."
Right?

Sorry?

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in The question no one's been asking...:

@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:

@aqua-letifer said in The question no one's been asking...:

Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights.

Do it tomorrow, I don't give a shit.

This board stopped being about the board, and the people within it started becoming more important for me a long, long time ago. If this platform went dark for good tomorrow, I still have plenty of ways to stay in contact with the folks who make this place what it is for me.

Then, fuck off.

I do, from time to time.

Participation by whomever is welcome, but nobody came busting down your door making you come here, so don't give me that holier-than-thou-I-am-above-the-fray horseshit.

I'll do that when you stop trying to rank-ordering members of an internet board in order of how more or less important you think they are.

I didn't rank order. I said the core is more important than the periphery. That's stone cold truth, whether you like it or not. I can show you several internet forums that are barely functioning. We talked about one in this thread already. It takes more than one person, it takes a core group.

I like to hear your thoughts. I think you are a well-educated man with a somewhat unique perspective and skils everyone does not have. But the Truth is that if the board depended solely on you, or people with your erratic posting proclivity, it would have died years ago.

That is my opinion.

EDIT: Just for shits and grins, I looked back at the last 100 threads to see how many you started. You're batting 0.

The prosecution rests.

Now, here's a challenge...Prove me wrong. Think of a few things that interest you and post them. God knows we talk about almost everything around here and I'm sure somebody has an opinion on almost anything you can come up with.