The question no one's been asking...
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@larry said in The question no one's been asking...:
@89th said in The question no one's been asking...:
If you look at what Trump was able to accomplish in the first 2-3 years of his presidency, it's actually pretty impressive to any conservative. Unfortunately he completely fumbled the pandemic, and his attempts to undermine a free and fair election he lost has completely turned him into likely the single worst president in history. So the short answer to your question is a resounding no.
I had decided I was gone. I made the mistake of opening this thread, and what you wrote is so stupid I have to respond. Then I likely won't ever come here again, and I don't mind telling you that after literally YEARS of taking shots from all sorts of people, it is you and your stupid bull headedness that has caused me to just fucking give up on this place.
Ok, I was wrong. Might not be the worst president in history, but is probably in the top 4 along with Fillmore, Buchanan, and Harrison (Benjamin, not William).
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@larry said in The question no one's been asking...:
@89th said in The question no one's been asking...:
@xenon said in The question no one's been asking...:
It's been four years... are we great again?
If you look at what Trump was able to accomplish in the first 2-3 years of his presidency, it's actually pretty impressive to any conservative. Unfortunately he completely fumbled the pandemic, and his attempts to undermine a free and fair election he lost has completely turned him into likely the single worst president in history. So the short answer to your question is a resounding no.
I had decided I was gone. I made the mistake of opening this thread, and what you wrote is so stupid I have to respond. Then I likely won't ever come here again, and I don't mind telling you that after literally YEARS of taking shots from all sorts of people, it is you and your stupid bull headedness that has caused me to just fucking give up on this place.
No, Trump did NOT fumble the pandemic. And I'm fucking sick of you repeating that bull shit. The pandemic that got fumbled was the H1N1 virus that even Obama's own people have said it was just sheer dumb luck that it wound down on it's own. Trump cleared the way for coming up with a vaccine in less than a year, the fastest ANYZ vaccine has ever been done. So stop with the bull shit.
Second, I'm sorry, but the election was STOLEN. Yes, Trump overplayed his hand at his last rally and a small group of bad actors showed their ass, and stained his presidency. But he fact remains that Biden did NOT win by legal votes, the election WAS stolen, so fuck you. Lastly, and then you can have the place - this time next year after a year of democrat rule you'll wish you'd never heard of Joe Biden.
Larry's last TNCR post.
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@89th said in The question no one's been asking...:
@larry said in The question no one's been asking...:
@89th said in The question no one's been asking...:
If you look at what Trump was able to accomplish in the first 2-3 years of his presidency, it's actually pretty impressive to any conservative. Unfortunately he completely fumbled the pandemic, and his attempts to undermine a free and fair election he lost has completely turned him into likely the single worst president in history. So the short answer to your question is a resounding no.
I had decided I was gone. I made the mistake of opening this thread, and what you wrote is so stupid I have to respond. Then I likely won't ever come here again, and I don't mind telling you that after literally YEARS of taking shots from all sorts of people, it is you and your stupid bull headedness that has caused me to just fucking give up on this place.
Ok, I was wrong. Might not be the worst president in history, but is probably in the top 4 along with Fillmore, Buchanan, and Harrison (Benjamin, not William).
Ok, so who was more important to this place, you or Larry?
(I'd make a great Jewish mother. How's that for guilt?
)Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@mik said in The question no one's been asking...:
I miss Larry a lot. But it was not 89th’s fault.
C'mon, man! I'm on a roll!
In all seriousness, the TDS shit had hit a crescendo not long before that. Look at Jon's post count. Look at 89th's stuff. And a couple of others. If you supported Trump or even if you were on the fence, you were faced with a wall of shit everyday.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's well within the rules of the place. The only thing that is amusing, are the folks that show up during a political donnybrook, and then you don't see them again for years.
Nature of the beast, I guess...
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@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:
Ok, so who was more important to this place, you or Larry?
I think that the saying - "the total is more than each individual piece" is correct for TNCR.
The nice thing about this place is the variety of opinions and philosophies here. Anybody who leaves here causes a loss for everybody here.
So no, I dont think that @Larry is/was more important than @89th When said "coherently", both have been great additions to the board.
Larry posted a lot of interesting stuff but also alot of mean stuff. Sometimes it was quite difficult to see past the mean stuff to see the interesting stuff.
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@taiwan_girl said in The question no one's been asking...:
@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:
Ok, so who was more important to this place, you or Larry?
I think that the saying - "the total is more than each individual piece" is correct for TNCR.
The nice thing about this place is the variety of opinions and philosophies here. Anybody who leaves here causes a loss for everybody here.
So no, I dont think that @Larry is/was more important than @89th When said "coherently", both have been great additions to the board.
Larry posted a lot of interesting stuff but also alot of mean stuff. Sometimes it was quite difficult to see past the mean stuff to see the interesting stuff.
Not getting into a pissing match, but just pointing out some cold, hard facts...Participation drives boards like this. The less participation you have, the sooner they wither and die. Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights. Same for just about any place when it comes to core groups...Look across the fence and ask yourself how long they would survive in any interesting form, if wtg, Steve Miller, Quirt and Nina all decided to head for the exits.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:
.Participation drives boards like this
Look at Fat Shirley's. Supposedly, it's the board that @Larry owns. He hasn't posted there in months...years?
AFAICT, there are about....3 active users there. I breeze by every day and see nothing new and walk away.
ETA: I really miss a lot of the old folks from "back then." It's great to see @jodi , @taiwan_girl and others more active. I just hope it doesn't end.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@george-k said in The question no one's been asking...:
@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:
.Participation drives boards like this
Look at Fat Shirley's. Supposedly, it's the board that @Larry owns. He hasn't posted there in months...years?
AFAICT, there are about....3 active users there. I breeze by every day and see nothing new and walk away.
ETA: I really miss a lot of the old folks from "back then." It's great to see @jodi , @taiwan_girl and others more active. I just hope it doesn't end.
I enjoy them, too. Jodi is a smart person and TG is just flat cute.
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@george-k said in The question no one's been asking...:
@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:
.Participation drives boards like this
Look at Fat Shirley's. Supposedly, it's the board that @Larry owns. He hasn't posted there in months...years?
AFAICT, there are about....3 active users there. I breeze by every day and see nothing new and walk away.
ETA: I really miss a lot of the old folks from "back then." It's great to see @jodi , @taiwan_girl and others more active. I just hope it doesn't end.
Another riff off of this one...I'd love for the guys over there to move over here and have invited them.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@jolly said in The question no one's been asking...:
Not getting into a pissing match, but just pointing out some cold, hard facts...Participation drives boards like this. The less participation you have, the sooner they wither and die. Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights. Same for just about any place when it comes to core groups...Look across the fence and ask yourself how long they would survive in any interesting form, if wtg, Steve Miller, Quirt and Nina all decided to head for the exits.
I agree with this. This place obviously thrives off of the primary activity of a number of you, and I hope Larry comes back.
That being said, he left for his own reasons. If you re-read my posts, I think they’re pretty logical and calm…and don’t come even remotely close to the intensity we’ve seen in previous debates over the past 10-20 years.
You implied I (and others?) only became active recently to bash Trump, which isn’t true. I returned in Feb 2020 when COVID allowed me to work from home more whereas my job since 2012 has prevented access to forum-related sites, which (combined with getting married and having kids) really hindered my activity here.
Sure, the main news stories of 2020 resulted in discussions about how I thought Trump fumbled the pandemic, and also clearly lost the election in a landslide, and spewed enough lies that resulted in the Jan 6th chaos. To be frank, many of those replies were to counter positions you and Larry held about the election results. I also said repeatedly I thought Trump did a number of great things for conservatives during his tenure, too. My positions, IMO, are not driven by political party stances, but are pretty independent in nature. I’d be saying the same thing whether it was Obama or Trump in office.
Anyway… as I said before I hope Larry returns. With my recent move to MN behind me, I hope to become more regularly active here and to add some value to this special place.
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Nothing against you, Opti, Friday, 89th or several others, but if the board suddenly lost Jon, George, Mik, Copper, Ax, Phibes and myself, you could turn off the lights.
Do it tomorrow, I don't give a shit.
This board stopped being about the board, and the people within it started becoming more important for me a long, long time ago. If this platform went dark for good tomorrow, I still have plenty of ways to stay in contact with the folks who make this place what it is for me.
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Any investment in time has to be worth it. It used to be that people used to enjoy debating ideas. Now ideological purity and echo chambers reign supreme. I don’t enjoy either but clearly a diverse ecosystem is a shrinking market everywhere.
It’s too bad. Lots of really interesting stuff gets introduced here and it appears those that left have better things to do with their time. It kind of sounds like the remaining people need to get ready for that day. I hope not but having a plan b is always a good idea.
