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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    @loki said in Trust Us:

    I can go to visit the Amish too for that matter and get their take on reality as they are not interested in progress in science over the last one hundred years. Not knowing how they think is an ignorance I can tolerate.

    Let me ask you a few things...

    1. What is the current data from VAERS? Is the vaccine totally safe?
    2. Should the vaccine even be called a vaccine? It doesn't work the same as any previous vaccine. The COVID vaccine does not confer immunity. Period. You can and possibly will catch COVID after the shot(s). What is the prognosis for a healthy 12-40 year old person with a positive PCR test for COV-SARS-2?
    3. What are the long term effects of the vaccine on the human genome? Does it affect pregnancies, specifically the developing fetus?
    4. What is the argument for getting the vaccine after having COVID and does the vaccine provide any T-Cell memory as opposed to not getting the shot after having had COVID?

    Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head. I can probably hammer in a dozen more, if you give me the time and a nice PubMed + LexisNexis access (I do miss having access to LSU's Med School Library🙂 )

    Those are some of the arguments and questions I hear some of the common people talking about. Carpenters. School teachers. Insurance agents. Electricians. Nurses.

    You know, morons.

    BTW, the Amish aren't ignorant. They encourage their children to go Wilding, to see how the rest of society lives. Most of the kids come back. They prefer their highly specialized, but less complicated Amish life.

    BTW, I did say specialized. I couldn't do it, and I know more than the rest of you on this board put together about how to live a rural, sustainable lifestyle without any modern conveniences, such as electricity. To prosper, you have to be pretty intelligent in things that really matter.

    At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      On the one hand, we've got Donald Trump almost single-handedly producing a world-beating vaccine that billions of Americans have taken.

      On the other, none of his supporters seem to want to take it.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

      On the one hand, we've got Donald Trump almost single-handedly producing a world-beating vaccine that billions of Americans have taken.

      On the other, none of his supporters seem to want to take it.

      Flippant, but not true. Look at the Red States, and who takes the vaccine and who doesn't.

      BTW, some have suggested that vaccine numbers can be directly tied to paranoia about COVID.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #23

        Have we flattened the curve yet?

        The Brad

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          LuFins Dad
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          #24

          @Jolly let me ask a question... Will a Baccine Resistant strain be more likely to develop in an unvaccinated person where there’s less evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, or in somebody that is a breakthrough case)

          The Brad

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

            @jolly said in Trust Us:

            @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

            TL;DR

            Stay ignorant.

            Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

            Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

            You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

            Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
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            #25

            @jolly said in Trust Us:

            Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

            As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @jolly said in Trust Us:

              Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

              As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @jolly said in Trust Us:

                Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

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                Jolly
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                @renauda said in Trust Us:

                @jolly said in Trust Us:

                Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

                I'm sure it is. I hear a few assholes reside there, too.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @jolly said in Trust Us:

                  At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

                  I learned to drive on roads with regular horse-and-buggy traffic. For about 4 decades, my mother was a social worker in an area with a significant Amish and Mennonite population.

                  Please, do go on about their saintlike way of life. I'm listening.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Jolly let me ask a question... Will a Baccine Resistant strain be more likely to develop in an unvaccinated person where there’s less evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, or in somebody that is a breakthrough case)

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                    @lufins-dad said in Trust Us:

                    @Jolly let me ask a question... Will a Baccine Resistant strain be more likely to develop in an unvaccinated person where there’s less evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, or in somebody that is a breakthrough case)

                    As long as they can attack the host successfully, I would think they are less likely to mutate. Less likely, due to lack of antigenic shift right now, but viruses gotta virus and I don't see why we won't see an antigenic drift over time.

                    Now, once we get several mutations out there, the likelihood of shifts rather than drifts can arise, most likely from two different mutations infecting the body at the same time, causing some jumbling of the RNA.

                    And then, our vaccine may, or may not work.

                    BTW, all that stuff I just said and a dollar bill, will buy a small coffee at McDonald's...The dollar bill part is very important.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                      At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

                      I learned to drive on roads with regular horse-and-buggy traffic. For about 4 decades, my mother was a social worker in an area with a significant Amish and Mennonite population.

                      Please, do go on about their saintlike way of life. I'm listening.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      @aqua-letifer said in Trust Us:

                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                      At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

                      I learned to drive on roads with regular horse-and-buggy traffic. For about 4 decades, my mother was a social worker in an area with a significant Amish and Mennonite population.

                      Please, do go on about their saintlike way of life. I'm listening.

                      I didn't say it was saintlike. I said it is complicated in many ways, because of the skills needed to live it successfully. I don't think you could be stupid and succeed.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @aqua-letifer said in Trust Us:

                        @jolly said in Trust Us:

                        At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

                        I learned to drive on roads with regular horse-and-buggy traffic. For about 4 decades, my mother was a social worker in an area with a significant Amish and Mennonite population.

                        Please, do go on about their saintlike way of life. I'm listening.

                        I didn't say it was saintlike. I said it is complicated in many ways, because of the skills needed to live it successfully. I don't think you could be stupid and succeed.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        @jolly said in Trust Us:

                        I didn't say it was saintlike. I said it is complicated in many ways, because of the skills needed to live it successfully. I don't think you could be stupid and succeed.

                        You want any examples of Amish goodfornothings, junkies, spousal abusers or anything else, just let me know.

                        The Amish aren't special. They're people who live differently, but they're still people.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @renauda said in Trust Us:

                          @jolly said in Trust Us:

                          Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                          As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

                          I'm sure it is. I hear a few assholes reside there, too.

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                          Renauda
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                          #32

                          @jolly said in Trust Us:

                          @renauda said in Trust Us:

                          @jolly said in Trust Us:

                          Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                          As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

                          I'm sure it is. I hear a few assholes reside there, too.

                          @jolly said in Trust Us:

                          @renauda said in Trust Us:

                          @jolly said in Trust Us:

                          Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                          As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

                          I'm sure it is. I hear a few assholes reside there, too.

                          And I'm equally sure you have. Like I said it's not a lot different from the Bible Belt and middle America with which you are familiar with and revere. Y'all feel right at home in around Caroline or Eckville, Alberta.

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                            Jolly
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                            Oilpatch is oilpatch.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Renauda
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                              Actually more agriculture than oil patch, although many also work, or worked, oilpatch service jobs in the winter months.

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                                Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                  https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

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                                  @horace said in Trust Us:

                                  Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                  He wants to kill people.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
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                                    I live in arguably the reddest county in Ohio. 48% of our residents were vaccinated as of three days ago.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                      https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

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                                      @horace said in Trust Us:

                                      Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                      https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

                                      How can you be woke and a social justice leader and refuse to say? I’d love to hear that argument.

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                                        @horace said in Trust Us:

                                        Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                        https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

                                        How can you be woke and a social justice leader and refuse to say? I’d love to hear that argument.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        @loki said in Trust Us:

                                        @horace said in Trust Us:

                                        Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                        https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

                                        How can you be woke and a social justice leader and refuse to say? I’d love to hear that argument.

                                        Depends on how shitty the people are who are asking, I'd guess. If I felt like the question was more like a pre-emptive attack I'd tell them to go to hell with their question, too.

                                        And yes I still think those who are capable and should get vaccinated but still don't are fucking assholes.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @loki said in Trust Us:

                                          @horace said in Trust Us:

                                          Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                          https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

                                          How can you be woke and a social justice leader and refuse to say? I’d love to hear that argument.

                                          Depends on how shitty the people are who are asking, I'd guess. If I felt like the question was more like a pre-emptive attack I'd tell them to go to hell with their question, too.

                                          And yes I still think those who are capable and should get vaccinated but still don't are fucking assholes.

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                                          Loki
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                                          @aqua-letifer said in Trust Us:

                                          @loki said in Trust Us:

                                          @horace said in Trust Us:

                                          Known Republican Lebron James doesn't want to say whether he's vaccinated.

                                          https://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/2021/05/24/lebron-james-coronavirus-vaccine-nr-vpx.cnn

                                          How can you be woke and a social justice leader and refuse to say? I’d love to hear that argument.

                                          Depends on how shitty the people are who are asking, I'd guess. If I felt like the question was more like a pre-emptive attack I'd tell them to go to hell with their question, too.

                                          And yes I still think those who are capable and should get vaccinated but still don't are fucking assholes.

                                          Great point. That’s why the wokearati need to ask him and at least CNN surfaced it. Now CNN needs to follow up to be authentic.

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