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  • D Doctor Phibes
    22 May 2021, 18:41

    TL;DR

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    Jolly
    wrote on 23 May 2021, 02:51 last edited by
    #10

    @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

    TL;DR

    Stay ignorant.

    Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      23 May 2021, 02:51

      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

      TL;DR

      Stay ignorant.

      Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 23 May 2021, 02:59 last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #11

      @jolly said in Trust Us:

      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

      TL;DR

      Stay ignorant.

      Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

      Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

      You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

      I was only joking

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      • L Loki
        22 May 2021, 17:35

        You can read that and get juiced up or take a shot and move on.

        What reality do you choose for yourself?

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        Horace
        wrote on 23 May 2021, 03:07 last edited by
        #12

        @loki said in Trust Us:

        You can read that and get juiced up or take a shot and move on.

        What reality do you choose for yourself?

        I'm fond of the reality I experience after I take 10 shots or so.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          23 May 2021, 02:59

          @jolly said in Trust Us:

          @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

          TL;DR

          Stay ignorant.

          Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

          Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

          You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

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          Jolly
          wrote on 23 May 2021, 11:34 last edited by
          #13

          @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

          @jolly said in Trust Us:

          @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

          TL;DR

          Stay ignorant.

          Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

          Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

          You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

          Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
            wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:09 last edited by
            #14

            Sadly true

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            • J Jolly
              23 May 2021, 11:34

              @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

              @jolly said in Trust Us:

              @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

              TL;DR

              Stay ignorant.

              Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

              Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

              You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

              Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:10 last edited by
              #15

              @jolly said in Trust Us:

              @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

              @jolly said in Trust Us:

              @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

              TL;DR

              Stay ignorant.

              Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

              Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

              You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

              Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

              And what better way to learn about Real America than to read The American Thinker, right?

              Does it occur to you that you're every bit as ignorant of what life is actually like around here?

              I was only joking

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                Jolly
                wrote on 23 May 2021, 13:28 last edited by
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                @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                And what better way to learn about Real America than to read The American Thinker, right?
                Does it occur to you that you're every bit as ignorant of what life is actually like around here?

                For you, yes. I think it would do you some good to understand why so many people in Fly-over Country vote conservative.

                For life in your part of the world, I understand it. I just don't want to live it.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 23 May 2021, 14:12 last edited by
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                  Maybe the issue is we don't know each other and our lives well enough. For instance I am not big on current progressive policies, but I will state that some of the most liberal cities I have been in have been really great places to live, Boston and Ann Arbor being the foremost ones that come to mind. That said, Indianapolis and the state of Indiana is very well run by primarily GOP. Ohio is a pretty well run state, also GOP. Cleveland and Cincinnati have made leaps and bounds in livability.

                  Maybe the thing to do is not label ideas by political affiliation and choose what works, discarding what doesn't.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 23 May 2021, 15:04 last edited by
                    #18

                    To be honest, when I travel I’m more taken by the similarities of different places and people than by the differences. And I’ve heard people here describe places that I’ve actually lived in (and they haven’t) in terms that are unrecognizable to my own experience.

                    You can’t really understand a place by reading about it online

                    I was only joking

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                    • J Jolly
                      23 May 2021, 11:34

                      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                      TL;DR

                      Stay ignorant.

                      Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

                      Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

                      You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

                      Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 23 May 2021, 16:23 last edited by
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                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                      TL;DR

                      Stay ignorant.

                      Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

                      Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

                      You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

                      Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                      I can go to visit the Amish too for that matter and get their take on reality as they are not interested in progress in science over the last one hundred years. Not knowing how they think is an ignorance I can tolerate.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 23 May 2021, 17:04 last edited by
                        #20

                        On the one hand, we've got Donald Trump almost single-handedly producing a world-beating vaccine that billions of Americans have taken.

                        On the other, none of his supporters seem to want to take it.

                        I was only joking

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 23 May 2021, 17:06 last edited by
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                          @loki said in Trust Us:

                          I can go to visit the Amish too for that matter and get their take on reality as they are not interested in progress in science over the last one hundred years. Not knowing how they think is an ignorance I can tolerate.

                          Let me ask you a few things...

                          1. What is the current data from VAERS? Is the vaccine totally safe?
                          2. Should the vaccine even be called a vaccine? It doesn't work the same as any previous vaccine. The COVID vaccine does not confer immunity. Period. You can and possibly will catch COVID after the shot(s). What is the prognosis for a healthy 12-40 year old person with a positive PCR test for COV-SARS-2?
                          3. What are the long term effects of the vaccine on the human genome? Does it affect pregnancies, specifically the developing fetus?
                          4. What is the argument for getting the vaccine after having COVID and does the vaccine provide any T-Cell memory as opposed to not getting the shot after having had COVID?

                          Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head. I can probably hammer in a dozen more, if you give me the time and a nice PubMed + LexisNexis access (I do miss having access to LSU's Med School Library🙂 )

                          Those are some of the arguments and questions I hear some of the common people talking about. Carpenters. School teachers. Insurance agents. Electricians. Nurses.

                          You know, morons.

                          BTW, the Amish aren't ignorant. They encourage their children to go Wilding, to see how the rest of society lives. Most of the kids come back. They prefer their highly specialized, but less complicated Amish life.

                          BTW, I did say specialized. I couldn't do it, and I know more than the rest of you on this board put together about how to live a rural, sustainable lifestyle without any modern conveniences, such as electricity. To prosper, you have to be pretty intelligent in things that really matter.

                          At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            23 May 2021, 17:04

                            On the one hand, we've got Donald Trump almost single-handedly producing a world-beating vaccine that billions of Americans have taken.

                            On the other, none of his supporters seem to want to take it.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 23 May 2021, 17:08 last edited by
                            #22

                            @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                            On the one hand, we've got Donald Trump almost single-handedly producing a world-beating vaccine that billions of Americans have taken.

                            On the other, none of his supporters seem to want to take it.

                            Flippant, but not true. Look at the Red States, and who takes the vaccine and who doesn't.

                            BTW, some have suggested that vaccine numbers can be directly tied to paranoia about COVID.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 23 May 2021, 18:52 last edited by
                              #23

                              Have we flattened the curve yet?

                              The Brad

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 23 May 2021, 18:55 last edited by
                                #24

                                @Jolly let me ask a question... Will a Baccine Resistant strain be more likely to develop in an unvaccinated person where there’s less evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, or in somebody that is a breakthrough case)

                                The Brad

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                                • J Jolly
                                  23 May 2021, 11:34

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                                  @jolly said in Trust Us:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Trust Us:

                                  TL;DR

                                  Stay ignorant.

                                  Some of y'all sit around and kvetch, because people aren't being vaccinated. Might want to try to figure out what they are thinking...

                                  Fuck the American Thinker. I'm sick of their shit.

                                  You honestly think I'm the ignorant one here?

                                  Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 23 May 2021, 19:03 last edited by Renauda
                                  #25

                                  @jolly said in Trust Us:

                                  Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                                  As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

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                                  • R Renauda
                                    23 May 2021, 19:03

                                    @jolly said in Trust Us:

                                    Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                                    As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 23 May 2021, 19:03 last edited by
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                                    • R Renauda
                                      23 May 2021, 19:03

                                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                                      Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                                      As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 23 May 2021, 19:07 last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @renauda said in Trust Us:

                                      @jolly said in Trust Us:

                                      Plop your ass down in middle America or in the Bible Belt, and yes, you're ignorant as dirt.

                                      As a matter of fact, I live on the edge of the Bible Belt of this country. It's not a lot different from what you call middle America. It is populated by a lot of ignorant social conservative and intolerant libertarians of convenience. Ignoramuses for the most part.

                                      I'm sure it is. I hear a few assholes reside there, too.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 23 May 2021, 19:14 last edited by
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                                        @jolly said in Trust Us:

                                        At times, I envy the Amish. Mennonites, too.

                                        I learned to drive on roads with regular horse-and-buggy traffic. For about 4 decades, my mother was a social worker in an area with a significant Amish and Mennonite population.

                                        Please, do go on about their saintlike way of life. I'm listening.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          23 May 2021, 18:55

                                          @Jolly let me ask a question... Will a Baccine Resistant strain be more likely to develop in an unvaccinated person where there’s less evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, or in somebody that is a breakthrough case)

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 23 May 2021, 19:17 last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @lufins-dad said in Trust Us:

                                          @Jolly let me ask a question... Will a Baccine Resistant strain be more likely to develop in an unvaccinated person where there’s less evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, or in somebody that is a breakthrough case)

                                          As long as they can attack the host successfully, I would think they are less likely to mutate. Less likely, due to lack of antigenic shift right now, but viruses gotta virus and I don't see why we won't see an antigenic drift over time.

                                          Now, once we get several mutations out there, the likelihood of shifts rather than drifts can arise, most likely from two different mutations infecting the body at the same time, causing some jumbling of the RNA.

                                          And then, our vaccine may, or may not work.

                                          BTW, all that stuff I just said and a dollar bill, will buy a small coffee at McDonald's...The dollar bill part is very important.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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