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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    What's a few million? Easy come, easy go...đź’¸

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      So no conversation about the fact that Colonial paid the $5 Million AND there seems to a good possibility that they were encouraged to do so by the administration?

      taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

      So no conversation about the fact that Colonial paid the $5 Million AND there seems to a good possibility that they were encouraged to do so by the administration?

      If that were the case, do you think that was the right response?

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        No.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          No.

          taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @jolly what would be the right response?

          Kind of. “no win” situation. Don’t pay, the pipeline shuts down, no gas on the US East Coast for certain time period.

          Pay the ransom, and that is giving into criminals.

          Glad I did not have to make that decision.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            It’s confirmed that they did pay the ransom, the conflicting reports seem to be the Administration’s role in the decision.

            The Brad

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @jolly what would be the right response?

              Kind of. “no win” situation. Don’t pay, the pipeline shuts down, no gas on the US East Coast for certain time period.

              Pay the ransom, and that is giving into criminals.

              Glad I did not have to make that decision.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              @taiwan_girl said in The ransom:

              @jolly what would be the right response?

              Kind of. “no win” situation. Don’t pay, the pipeline shuts down, no gas on the US East Coast for certain time period.

              Pay the ransom, and that is giving into criminals.

              Glad I did not have to make that decision.

              Declare them terrorists, issue an Executive Action and kill them wherever you find them, no matter how long it takes.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
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                #8

                Pay them in crypto, access the blockchain ledger, track where the money goes, then send Chris Christie to sit next to them on a 14 hour plane ride to the US.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  They paid it almost immediately, and guess what...

                  https://www.zdnet.com/article/colonial-pipeline-paid-close-to-5-million-in-ransomware-blackmail-payment/

                  Colonial Pipeline reportedly paid the ransomware group responsible for a cyberattack last week close to $5 million to decrypt locked systems.

                  On Thursday, Bloomberg reported that two people close to the matter said a blackmail demand was agreed to within hours of the cyberattack that has impacted the fuel giant's systems for close to a week.

                  On May 7, Colonial Pipeline experienced a ransomware attack which forced the company to temporarily close down its operations and freeze IT systems to isolate the infection.

                  While pipelines are now back in business, it will be days before normal service resumes -- and the issues surrounding supply have already caused panic buying across some cities in the United States.

                  The publication says that the payment was made to DarkSide malware operators in cryptocurrency in order to secure a decryption key and restore systems rendered inoperational by the ransomware.

                  However, the decryptor was reported to be "so slow" that backups were also used in restoration efforts.

                  @Jolly 's idea is sounding better and better.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #10

                    Not only that, but they apologized, saying they only wanted money, not to disrupt our energy picture. I suppose it is possible they did not know the impact of what they did, but I doubt it.

                    Kill them all.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • L Offline
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                      Loki
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                      I wonder if for $10 million they would have gotten a faster decryptor?

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                        Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

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                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                          Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

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                          • L Loki

                            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins Dad
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                            @loki said in The ransom:

                            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                            That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @loki said in The ransom:

                                @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                                Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                                Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                                That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                                L Offline
                                L Offline
                                Loki
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                @loki said in The ransom:

                                @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                                Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                                Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                                That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                                So tell me exactly what you would do.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                                  L Offline
                                  L Offline
                                  Loki
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                  And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                                  How? Don’t pay and let the gas crisis explode. You would be lynched in a week and suffer the fate you want for the ransom folk.

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                                  • L Loki

                                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                    @loki said in The ransom:

                                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                    All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                                    Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                                    Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                                    That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                                    So tell me exactly what you would do.

                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    @loki said in The ransom:

                                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                    @loki said in The ransom:

                                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                    All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                                    Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                                    Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                                    That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                                    So tell me exactly what you would do.

                                    What do you do with pirates?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

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                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @loki said in The ransom:

                                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                        @loki said in The ransom:

                                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                        All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                                        Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                                        Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                                        That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                                        So tell me exactly what you would do.

                                        What do you do with pirates?

                                        L Offline
                                        L Offline
                                        Loki
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        @jolly said in The ransom:

                                        @loki said in The ransom:

                                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                        @loki said in The ransom:

                                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                                        All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                                        Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                                        Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                                        That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                                        So tell me exactly what you would do.

                                        What do you do with pirates?

                                        I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          The right thing to do is harden our systems and increase our ability to track hackers.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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