First Doses First strategy

[jon-nyc]

Here is NY announcement the other day:

Starting on Monday, New York State will begin scheduling vaccinations for "Phase 1b" groups—the next category of people eligible for the vaccine. This group includes: People aged 75 and up; education workers (pre-K through 12 teachers and education workers, licensed and registered child care providers, and school-bus drivers); first responders (local police, State Police, Sheriff's Office employees, professional and volunteer firefighters); EMS workers (including professional and volunteer paramedics and EMTs); public transit workers (airline and airport employees, passenger railroad employees, subway and mass transit employees, ferry employees, Port Authority employees, and public bus drivers); and public safety workers. About 3.2 million additional New Yorkers will now be eligible.

Note that last sentence. Give me 3.2MM vaccines and I could vaccinate everyone in the state over 62. (figuratively). Deaths would all but cease in Feb.

THat's without even doubling using a FDF strategy.

[jon-nyc]

Median age in ICU for covid is ~65, median age in hospital is ~62.

So vaccinating 62+ cuts hospital utilization in half.

[Mik]

Still, you are changing strategy based on hope, not data. Bad idea.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/world/dr-fauci-advises-against-the-british-approach-of-delaying-a-second-dose-of-vaccine.html

[Rich]

Wow. It still makes a certain amount of sense to me to place 'front line' medical staff at or near the front of the line. (even if using the 'deserves it' reasoning) But all of these other categories ahead of those who clearly have the worst outcomes?

It'll be interesting to watch the charts on numbers of deaths and how they relate to what strategy each state uses.

I wonder what level of accountability there will or won't be for these decisions. I have a guess...

[Loki]

I suspect we know exactly how the vaccine behaves and the real issue is convincing the public.

We have likely made up risk that really doesn’t exist.

[Mik]

Show credible data that contradicts Fauci. My suspicion is this is likely the only thing Biden can do differently than Trump and perhaps claim victory.

But what happened to following the experts' advice? Gone like a fart in the wind.

[Jolly]

@mik said in First Doses First strategy:

Show credible data that contradicts Fauci. My suspicion is this is likely the only thing Biden can do differently than Trump and perhaps claim victory.

But what happened to following the experts' advice? Gone like a fart in the wind.

Yep.

[kluurs]

@mik Do the time tested strategy of getting other experts.

[LuFins Dad]

Which approach helps Social Security Solvency?

[jon-nyc]

@lufins-dad

Live virus injections. Lots of it. Everyone over 50.

[jon-nyc]

Trump administration now backs First Dose First strategy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/12/trump-covid-vaccine-second-shot/

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in First Doses First strategy:

Trump administration now backs First Dose First strategy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/12/trump-covid-vaccine-second-shot/

Excellent. Now let’s get that Astra Zeneca vaccine out so that we can life back to normal ASAP. At least to those willing. I’m in. Heck I would take the J&J one today.

[LuFins Dad]

What do the doctors say? What do the vaccine developers recommend?

[Loki]

@lufins-dad said in First Doses First strategy:

What do the doctors say? What do the vaccine developers recommend?

Liability

[jon-nyc]

@lufins-dad said in First Doses First strategy:

What do the doctors say? What do the vaccine developers recommend?

Doctors are split and developers are answering the wrong question.