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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #140

    We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

    As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

      As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

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      Jolly
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      #141

      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

      As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

      Not enough to make much difference. Look at the percentage of GOP votes he received.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

        As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

        LarryL Offline
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        Larry
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        #142

        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

        As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

        The "obvious answer" you speak of is bull shit. And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

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        • LarryL Larry

          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

          As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

          The "obvious answer" you speak of is bull shit. And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

          jon-nycJ Offline
          jon-nycJ Offline
          jon-nyc
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          #143

          @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
          And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

          It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

          Like I did, by the way.

          I’ll bet a number of people here did.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
          LarryL taiwan_girlT 89th8 3 Replies Last reply
          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
            And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

            It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

            Like I did, by the way.

            I’ll bet a number of people here did.

            LarryL Offline
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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #144

            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
            And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

            It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

            Like I did, by the way.

            I’ll bet a number of people here did.

            BAWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
              And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

              It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

              Like I did, by the way.

              I’ll bet a number of people here did.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              #145

              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
              And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

              It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

              Like I did, by the way.

              I’ll bet a number of people here did.

              👋🏻

              Yup. There is nothing worse than people thinking that only one party is the solution to every problem there is in a country. That kind of “blind faith” will end badly.

              “OMG, if only the (insert party name here) controlled everything, life would be so much better. We would all run through fields alongside unicorns and someone would throw rose petals on our heads.”

              The best for the US is when things are split in the power. Maybe not as much gets done, but what does get done is more towards the center than any extreme.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                Like I did, by the way.

                I’ll bet a number of people here did.

                89th8 Offline
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                #146

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                Like I did, by the way.

                I’ll bet a number of people here did.

                Yup, same here

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #147

                  Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                  Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                  I don't get it.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                    Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                    I don't get it.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #148

                    Not to mention Biden seemed headed for a solid win based on polling, whereas the Senate looked a lot more iffy.

                    Somebody's going to organize a grand fraud and address only the former?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • LarryL Offline
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                      Larry
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #149

                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                      Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                      I don't get it.

                      It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.

                      I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.

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                      • LarryL Larry

                        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                        Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                        Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                        I don't get it.

                        It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.

                        I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #150

                        @larry

                        Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @larry

                          Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                          LarryL Offline
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                          Larry
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                          #151

                          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                          @larry

                          Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                          No it's not.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                            Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                            I don't get it.

                            89th8 Offline
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                            #152

                            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            I don't get it.

                            Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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                            • LarryL Larry

                              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              @larry

                              Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                              No it's not.

                              jon-nycJ Offline
                              jon-nycJ Offline
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @larry

                              Ah, yes it is?

                              However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • 89th8 89th

                                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                I don't get it.

                                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                LarryL Offline
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                                Larry
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                                #154

                                @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                I don't get it.

                                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                You are a childish fool.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @larry

                                  Ah, yes it is?

                                  However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                                  LarryL Offline
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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #155

                                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  @larry

                                  Ah, yes it is?

                                  However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                                  Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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                                  • LarryL Larry

                                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @larry

                                    Ah, yes it is?

                                    However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                                    Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #156

                                    @larry

                                    The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @larry

                                      The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                                      LarryL Offline
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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #157

                                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @larry

                                      The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                                      It's not "large scale". He hugely underperformed in only 6 states, and only in the counties within those 6 states that are 1. Heavily democrat and 2. Have a history of election fraud.

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                                        #158

                                        That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.

                                        But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Here Larry.

                                          https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/5097/philadelphia-and-environs?_=1609860388045

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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