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  • M Mik
    5 Jan 2021, 13:07

    @renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

    @rainman Actually it's a Trotskyist.

    Once you have that down we can work on a what a Groucho Marxist might be.

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    Let's not be picking on Canada here. Most of my relatives are there.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:21 last edited by
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    @mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

    Let's not be picking on Canada here. Most of my relatives are there.

    You're saying they've already suffered enough?

    I was only joking

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      5 Jan 2021, 13:21

      @mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      Let's not be picking on Canada here. Most of my relatives are there.

      You're saying they've already suffered enough?

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      Mik
      wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:32 last edited by
      #138

      @doctor-phibes Have you not been looking at the weather reports?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Larry
        wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:36 last edited by
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        @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        How do they know it's "futile" ?

        Because it won't change the outcome of certifying Biden's landslide electoral college win.

        It will if its found that this so called "landslide" was the result of voter fraud.

        You'd think that if he actually won more votes than Obama it would have also shown up in the down ballot races too, but it didn't. The house democrats lost a bunch of seats. Oh well, I guess it's normal for those "after 3am mail in ballots" got counted none of them voted down ballot.... yeah, that's it. Let's believe that. And let's laugh at anyone who dares question it.

        All hail.

        Amen... and Awoman...

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:44 last edited by
          #140

          We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

          As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • J jon-nyc
            5 Jan 2021, 13:44

            We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

            As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:50 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

            As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

            Not enough to make much difference. Look at the percentage of GOP votes he received.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J jon-nyc
              5 Jan 2021, 13:44

              We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

              As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

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              Larry
              wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:50 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

              As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

              The "obvious answer" you speak of is bull shit. And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

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              • L Larry
                5 Jan 2021, 13:50

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                We don’t laugh at you for questioning it, rather for ignoring the obvious answer that’s been explained here many times.

                As I said to Jolly you don’t even need to travel beyond TNCR to see that plenty of long standing conservatives can’t get themselves to vote for the guy.

                The "obvious answer" you speak of is bull shit. And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:52 last edited by
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                @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                Like I did, by the way.

                I’ll bet a number of people here did.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • J jon-nyc
                  5 Jan 2021, 13:52

                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                  And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                  It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                  Like I did, by the way.

                  I’ll bet a number of people here did.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 13:59 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                  And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                  It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                  Like I did, by the way.

                  I’ll bet a number of people here did.

                  BAWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    5 Jan 2021, 13:52

                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                    And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                    It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                    Like I did, by the way.

                    I’ll bet a number of people here did.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:05 last edited by
                    #145

                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                    And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                    It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                    Like I did, by the way.

                    I’ll bet a number of people here did.

                    👋🏻

                    Yup. There is nothing worse than people thinking that only one party is the solution to every problem there is in a country. That kind of “blind faith” will end badly.

                    “OMG, if only the (insert party name here) controlled everything, life would be so much better. We would all run through fields alongside unicorns and someone would throw rose petals on our heads.”

                    The best for the US is when things are split in the power. Maybe not as much gets done, but what does get done is more towards the center than any extreme.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      5 Jan 2021, 13:52

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                      And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                      It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                      Like I did, by the way.

                      I’ll bet a number of people here did.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:06 last edited by
                      #146

                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
                      And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".

                      It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.

                      Like I did, by the way.

                      I’ll bet a number of people here did.

                      Yup, same here

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:30 last edited by
                        #147

                        Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                        Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                        I don't get it.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          5 Jan 2021, 14:30

                          Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                          Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                          I don't get it.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:31 last edited by
                          #148

                          Not to mention Biden seemed headed for a solid win based on polling, whereas the Senate looked a lot more iffy.

                          Somebody's going to organize a grand fraud and address only the former?

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:40 last edited by
                            #149

                            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                            Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                            I don't get it.

                            It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.

                            I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.

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                            • L Larry
                              5 Jan 2021, 14:40

                              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                              Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                              I don't get it.

                              It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.

                              I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:45 last edited by
                              #150

                              @larry

                              Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                5 Jan 2021, 14:45

                                @larry

                                Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:51 last edited by
                                #151

                                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @larry

                                Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                                No it's not.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  5 Jan 2021, 14:30

                                  Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

                                  Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

                                  I don't get it.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:56 last edited by
                                  #152

                                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  I don't get it.

                                  Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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                                  • L Larry
                                    5 Jan 2021, 14:51

                                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @larry

                                    Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

                                    No it's not.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:56 last edited by
                                    #153

                                    @larry

                                    Ah, yes it is?

                                    However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • 8 89th
                                      5 Jan 2021, 14:56

                                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      I don't get it.

                                      Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:58 last edited by
                                      #154

                                      @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      I don't get it.

                                      Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                      You are a childish fool.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        5 Jan 2021, 14:56

                                        @larry

                                        Ah, yes it is?

                                        However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:00 last edited by
                                        #155

                                        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @larry

                                        Ah, yes it is?

                                        However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                                        Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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                                        • L Larry
                                          5 Jan 2021, 15:00

                                          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                          @larry

                                          Ah, yes it is?

                                          However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                                          Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:03 last edited by jon-nyc 1 May 2021, 15:05
                                          #156

                                          @larry

                                          The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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