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    Loki
    wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 15:29 last edited by
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    Rasmussen banks on its likely voter algorithm versus most polls who use registered voters.

    By all appearances many more people are voting this time.

    The question in this context is who is converting more registered to likely voters.

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      Loki
      wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 15:33 last edited by
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      In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year I think.

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        29 Oct 2020, 15:33

        In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year I think.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 15:59 last edited by
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        @Loki said in Understanding US election polls:

        In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year

        Don’t care about the spread, look at the numbers. 47% approve, Gallup has him at 46 and Emerson at 45. I’ve seen more Han a few analysts state the approval polls are far more important than the other polls and suggested that at 46% he wins narrowly, 47 he wins convincingly...

        @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

        The Brad

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        • L LuFins Dad
          29 Oct 2020, 15:59

          @Loki said in Understanding US election polls:

          In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year

          Don’t care about the spread, look at the numbers. 47% approve, Gallup has him at 46 and Emerson at 45. I’ve seen more Han a few analysts state the approval polls are far more important than the other polls and suggested that at 46% he wins narrowly, 47 he wins convincingly...

          @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 16:15 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

          @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

          Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            29 Oct 2020, 16:15

            @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

            @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

            Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

            @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

            Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

            The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

            The Brad

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              89th
              wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 16:43 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad deal. In fact, I’ll buy you 4 of those 4 packs and you only have to buy 1. Want to give you the odds!

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                28 Oct 2020, 20:56

                Anecdotally speaking, I don’t now a single person that voted for Trump in 16 that won’t be voting for him this time. I know a very few that voted Clinton in 16 that won’t be voting Biden, and I know a fair number like myself that voted 3rd party or just abstained in 16 because they couldn’t stand either that are strongly considering or already have pulled the lever for Trump. Hell, Aqua’s considering it...

                There have been record numbers of new voter registrations and while the Dems have gotten more numbers, it appears that Trump’s teams have won some of the important battleground states. I am not going to make any predictions at all except that I will be a little drunk on election night...

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 16:54 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                Anecdotally speaking, I don’t now a single person that voted for Trump in 16 that won’t be voting for him this time.

                All the Mullen voters I know broke for Kanye.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 16:55 last edited by
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                  Seriously though, I know 1 Trump voter who (already) voted Biden. She was one of the famed ‘Obama-Trump’ voters.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    29 Oct 2020, 16:21

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                    Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                    The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 17:00 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                    Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                    The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                    Is that stuff actually drinkable? The only beer I've had anywhere near that strong was barley wine, and it was pretty disgusting. There's also a long story associated with it which for legal reasons I can't go into here.

                    I was only joking

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 17:03 last edited by
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                      Several of you are seriously going to require therapy once Biden loses. Seriously.

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 17:11 last edited by
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                        Link to video

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          29 Oct 2020, 17:00

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                          Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                          The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                          Is that stuff actually drinkable? The only beer I've had anywhere near that strong was barley wine, and it was pretty disgusting. There's also a long story associated with it which for legal reasons I can't go into here.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 17:17 last edited by
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                          @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                          Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                          The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                          Is that stuff actually drinkable? The only beer I've had anywhere near that strong was barley wine, and it was pretty disgusting. There's also a long story associated with it which for legal reasons I can't go into here.

                          Yes, for being 15-20% ABV, it doesn't taste that alcoholic. The hops smell/taste is very potent, but it's great if you love IPAs like I do.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 19:24 last edited by xenon
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                            There are so many potential reasons why turnout will be different this year:

                            • Young people are all cooped up and might actually see voting as "something to do"

                            • Backlash to wokeness

                            • COVID suppresses in-person senior vote

                            • etc.

                            Turnout is harder to model than sentiment - so I'm not going to be surprised with any outcome here.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 19:30 last edited by
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                              I'll be surprised if Mr. Biden gets even one vote.

                              I guess it's possible.

                              But I just can't understand why anyone would do that.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 19:39 last edited by
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                                Biden is a monster, an old white man who's passed on his privilege to his younger white son. It's everything wrong with America, but I guess some people just love their unfair advantages so much, that they'd vote for Biden. I guess they don't care about the disadvantaged. It's their own souls at peril. I have nothing to do with it. They are the ones who will burn in eternal hell. It's really sad because I care about them, and people I care about, I would prefer not to burn in eternal hell. I hope they take my advice and vote for Trump. The stakes for their eternal souls are pretty high. Hugs.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  29 Oct 2020, 12:30

                                  @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

                                  The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

                                  God I hope so, but I lack your confidence.

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                                  A Former User
                                  wrote on 29 Oct 2020, 21:20 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                  @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

                                  The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

                                  God I hope so, but I lack your confidence.

                                  It will be a blowout popular and electoral. The silent majority are not closet Trumpsters. They are regular people who haven't drank his koolaid and are just plain tired of him and his need to be the water cooler topic each and every day.

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                                    29 Oct 2020, 21:20

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

                                    God I hope so, but I lack your confidence.

                                    It will be a blowout popular and electoral. The silent majority are not closet Trumpsters. They are regular people who haven't drank his koolaid and are just plain tired of him and his need to be the water cooler topic each and every day.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 30 Oct 2020, 01:43 last edited by Larry
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                                    @nobodyssock said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    The good news I think Biden will have such strong leads that it will minimize any waffling and delaying by Trump to concede defeat within a week or so after Nov 3.

                                    God I hope so, but I lack your confidence.

                                    It will be a blowout popular and electoral. The silent majority are not closet Trumpsters. They are regular people who haven't drank his koolaid and are just plain tired of him and his need to be the water cooler topic each and every day.

                                    Yeah.... thats why Trump rallies ha e 20,000 people and a biden rally has 20 show up, with 12 of those being news media....

                                    Fucking moron..

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 30 Oct 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                                      Do you think that’s based on popularity or safety?

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on 30 Oct 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                                        Youre kidding, right?

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 30 Oct 2020, 01:52 last edited by
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                                          If you think Trump has 20,000 people and Biden has 8 is a reflection of popularity, then I think you're going to be sadly surprised next week.

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