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  • 89th8 89th

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    @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

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    So the polls are now even more in the bag for the dem

    Shocking

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      What I don't understand is the seemingly unquenchable optimism of the supporters of both sides.

      I've never understood optimism. How many freaking times do you need to be let down before you finally see sense?

      I was only joking

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        What I don't understand is the seemingly unquenchable optimism of the supporters of both sides.

        I've never understood optimism. How many freaking times do you need to be let down before you finally see sense?

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

        I've never understood optimism. How many freaking times do you need to be let down before you finally see sense?

        Maybe we try one more time ...

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          Why does Rice play Texas?

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          • CopperC Copper

            @89th said in Understanding US election polls:

            17F030F7-D690-42E6-8F1F-13636EB196E2.jpeg

            So the polls are now even more in the bag for the dem

            Shocking

            jon-nycJ Online
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            @Copper said in Understanding US election polls:

            So the polls are now even more in the bag for the dem

            Those aren’t polls those are probabilities based on them.

            Note that time itself moves them. Even if the polls stay static the mere fact that there’s less time on the clock decreases your ability to turn things around.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Rasmussen banks on its likely voter algorithm versus most polls who use registered voters.

              By all appearances many more people are voting this time.

              The question in this context is who is converting more registered to likely voters.

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                In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year I think.

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                  In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year I think.

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                  @Loki said in Understanding US election polls:

                  In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year

                  Don’t care about the spread, look at the numbers. 47% approve, Gallup has him at 46 and Emerson at 45. I’ve seen more Han a few analysts state the approval polls are far more important than the other polls and suggested that at 46% he wins narrowly, 47 he wins convincingly...

                  @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                  The Brad

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                    @Loki said in Understanding US election polls:

                    In other news Rasmussen has the Trump approve/disapprove spread at 52 vs 47, the biggest spread of the year

                    Don’t care about the spread, look at the numbers. 47% approve, Gallup has him at 46 and Emerson at 45. I’ve seen more Han a few analysts state the approval polls are far more important than the other polls and suggested that at 46% he wins narrowly, 47 he wins convincingly...

                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                    Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                    I was only joking

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                      @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                      Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                      @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                      Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                      The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                      The Brad

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                        @LuFins-Dad deal. In fact, I’ll buy you 4 of those 4 packs and you only have to buy 1. Want to give you the odds!

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Anecdotally speaking, I don’t now a single person that voted for Trump in 16 that won’t be voting for him this time. I know a very few that voted Clinton in 16 that won’t be voting Biden, and I know a fair number like myself that voted 3rd party or just abstained in 16 because they couldn’t stand either that are strongly considering or already have pulled the lever for Trump. Hell, Aqua’s considering it...

                          There have been record numbers of new voter registrations and while the Dems have gotten more numbers, it appears that Trump’s teams have won some of the important battleground states. I am not going to make any predictions at all except that I will be a little drunk on election night...

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                          Anecdotally speaking, I don’t now a single person that voted for Trump in 16 that won’t be voting for him this time.

                          All the Mullen voters I know broke for Kanye.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Seriously though, I know 1 Trump voter who (already) voted Biden. She was one of the famed ‘Obama-Trump’ voters.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                              @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                              Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                              The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                              @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                              Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                              The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                              Is that stuff actually drinkable? The only beer I've had anywhere near that strong was barley wine, and it was pretty disgusting. There's also a long story associated with it which for legal reasons I can't go into here.

                              I was only joking

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                                Several of you are seriously going to require therapy once Biden loses. Seriously.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                                    Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                                    The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                                    Is that stuff actually drinkable? The only beer I've had anywhere near that strong was barley wine, and it was pretty disgusting. There's also a long story associated with it which for legal reasons I can't go into here.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Understanding US election polls:

                                    @89th , I still don’t like his chances that much but would be willing to put up a 4 pack of that 120 Minute...

                                    Jesus, what a lightweight. I will put up 240 bottles of Budweiser. The loser has to drink it.

                                    The 4 pack of 120 Minute probably costs more than 10 cases of Budweiser...

                                    Is that stuff actually drinkable? The only beer I've had anywhere near that strong was barley wine, and it was pretty disgusting. There's also a long story associated with it which for legal reasons I can't go into here.

                                    Yes, for being 15-20% ABV, it doesn't taste that alcoholic. The hops smell/taste is very potent, but it's great if you love IPAs like I do.

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                                      There are so many potential reasons why turnout will be different this year:

                                      • Young people are all cooped up and might actually see voting as "something to do"

                                      • Backlash to wokeness

                                      • COVID suppresses in-person senior vote

                                      • etc.

                                      Turnout is harder to model than sentiment - so I'm not going to be surprised with any outcome here.

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                                        I'll be surprised if Mr. Biden gets even one vote.

                                        I guess it's possible.

                                        But I just can't understand why anyone would do that.

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                                          Biden is a monster, an old white man who's passed on his privilege to his younger white son. It's everything wrong with America, but I guess some people just love their unfair advantages so much, that they'd vote for Biden. I guess they don't care about the disadvantaged. It's their own souls at peril. I have nothing to do with it. They are the ones who will burn in eternal hell. It's really sad because I care about them, and people I care about, I would prefer not to burn in eternal hell. I hope they take my advice and vote for Trump. The stakes for their eternal souls are pretty high. Hugs.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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