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Wasting Your Vote

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  • MikM Offline
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    I think third parties need to start out more local/state than national. That's what the Tea Party did and now they are well represented in Congress.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:

        My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.

        His perspective may be slightly different.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Mik

          I think third parties need to start out more local/state than national. That's what the Tea Party did and now they are well represented in Congress.

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          @Mik said in Wasting Your Vote:

          I think third parties need to start out more local/state than national. That's what the Tea Party did and now they are well represented in Congress.

          The Tea Party was mostly a subset of the GOP.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            To a degree, but they were NOT the rank and file.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:

              My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.

              His perspective may be slightly different.

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              @Jolly said in Wasting Your Vote:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:

              My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.

              His perspective may be slightly different.

              As an immigrant that came over in the Soviet era, I would say that he has a much better understanding of what constitutes tyranny than most natural born Americans. Not once has he complained about the need to wear a mask.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Jolly said in Wasting Your Vote:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:

                My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.

                His perspective may be slightly different.

                As an immigrant that came over in the Soviet era, I would say that he has a much better understanding of what constitutes tyranny than most natural born Americans. Not once has he complained about the need to wear a mask.

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                George K
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:

                I would say that he has a much better understanding of what constitutes tyranny than most natural born Americans.

                "If you're screaming 'THIS is what a police state looks like' in a public place, you have no idea what a police state looks like."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    On the ballot in all 50...

                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/08/libertarian-nominee-jo-jorgensen-wants-presidential-debate-stage/5927069002/

                    Now, explain to me why voting third party is not a waste of your vote?

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                    @Jolly said in Wasting Your Vote:

                    Now, explain to me why voting third party is not a waste of your vote?

                    In Virginia, Biden will win the state. So for me it’s a protest for a 3rd party to get more votes even though they obviously won’t win. I’d never vote for Biden, and I refuse to support Trump on moral grounds, so...either I don’t vote, or I vote for Jo. Either way, the result of Biden winning Virginia is the same, except in this case the libertarian will see one more vote.

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                      I was either going to write in somebody or vote libertarian had Bernie won. But again, in NY it’s a bit of a non-issue.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Votes are easy if they don't matter, but the messaging power of being able to honestly say that you voted for someone. Votes become hard if you have to make a difficult choice.

                        Education is extremely important.

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