Wasting Your Vote
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 12:36 last edited by
On the ballot in all 50...
Now, explain to me why voting third party is not a waste of your vote?
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 12:43 last edited by
(I agree with you , but will try and answer your question)
Because voting for the same two party just means we will get more of the same in the future. If a third-party gets enough votes, then maybe people will realize that there is a lot of anger and dissatisfaction towards them.
It is like the dictator that says, “everybody loves me, I got 90% of the vote.“
But in this case, it is the two parties saying that. “They must love us, because between us, we got almost 100% of the vote”
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 12:59 last edited by
The best polls show her getting 5%. That's inconsequential, but enough to tip an election, in some states.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 13:12 last edited by Mik
I did not consider my vote for Johnson/Weld in 2016 wasted, nor my vote for John Anderson in 1980. I honestly believed they were the best qualified candidates. I do not feel the same way about Jo Jorgenson, nor do I think her running mate is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, so I am left with one of the major party candidates.
But I will never consider a third party vote wasted.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 13:24 last edited by
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 13:44 last edited by
In our system, unless a third party candidate has overwhelming support (i.e. Bernie Sanders in recent times), almost any election featuring a third party candidate, is a siphon of votes for one of the two major party candidates.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 13:53 last edited by
Gotta walk before you can run. To get to a point that a third party can make a difference, they've got to start out small. The effect is cumulative. As more people see 5% grow to 8%, more people will join in.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 14:02 last edited by
I think third parties need to start out more local/state than national. That's what the Tea Party did and now they are well represented in Congress.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 14:10 last edited by
My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.
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My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.
wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 15:14 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:
My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.
His perspective may be slightly different.
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I think third parties need to start out more local/state than national. That's what the Tea Party did and now they are well represented in Congress.
wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 15:15 last edited by@Mik said in Wasting Your Vote:
I think third parties need to start out more local/state than national. That's what the Tea Party did and now they are well represented in Congress.
The Tea Party was mostly a subset of the GOP.
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 15:17 last edited by
To a degree, but they were NOT the rank and file.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:
My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.
His perspective may be slightly different.
wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 15:59 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in Wasting Your Vote:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:
My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.
His perspective may be slightly different.
As an immigrant that came over in the Soviet era, I would say that he has a much better understanding of what constitutes tyranny than most natural born Americans. Not once has he complained about the need to wear a mask.
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@Jolly said in Wasting Your Vote:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:
My Russian friend says that voting for somebody you hate is both a waste of your vote, and a surrender of your soul.
His perspective may be slightly different.
As an immigrant that came over in the Soviet era, I would say that he has a much better understanding of what constitutes tyranny than most natural born Americans. Not once has he complained about the need to wear a mask.
wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 16:28 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Wasting Your Vote:
I would say that he has a much better understanding of what constitutes tyranny than most natural born Americans.
"If you're screaming 'THIS is what a police state looks like' in a public place, you have no idea what a police state looks like."
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wrote on 16 Oct 2020, 20:32 last edited by
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On the ballot in all 50...
Now, explain to me why voting third party is not a waste of your vote?
wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 02:15 last edited by@Jolly said in Wasting Your Vote:
Now, explain to me why voting third party is not a waste of your vote?
In Virginia, Biden will win the state. So for me it’s a protest for a 3rd party to get more votes even though they obviously won’t win. I’d never vote for Biden, and I refuse to support Trump on moral grounds, so...either I don’t vote, or I vote for Jo. Either way, the result of Biden winning Virginia is the same, except in this case the libertarian will see one more vote.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 02:33 last edited by
I was either going to write in somebody or vote libertarian had Bernie won. But again, in NY it’s a bit of a non-issue.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2020, 02:35 last edited by
Votes are easy if they don't matter, but the messaging power of being able to honestly say that you voted for someone. Votes become hard if you have to make a difficult choice.
