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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #62

    I'm a bit curious if the legality depends on the source.

    Obviously it's illegal for an IRS employee to leak them. But is it an actual crime if, say, the secretary at the accounting firm does? I could imagine that going either way. Obviously they'd face professional and civil repercussions.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Jolly
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      #63

      They need to go to jail.

      Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        They need to go to jail.

        Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

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        #64

        @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

        They need to go to jail.

        Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

        The leak sounds illegal (I don't really know of any legal ways to leak a tax return).

        That said - once the info is out, it's out.

        I dunno what it means, haven't had a chance to look through myself yet.

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        • X xenon

          @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

          They need to go to jail.

          Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

          The leak sounds illegal (I don't really know of any legal ways to leak a tax return).

          That said - once the info is out, it's out.

          I dunno what it means, haven't had a chance to look through myself yet.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #65

          @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

          @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

          They need to go to jail.

          Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

          The leak sounds illegal (I don't really know of any legal ways to leak a tax return).

          That said - once the info is out, it's out.

          I dunno what it means, haven't had a chance to look through myself yet.

          Yep, once it's out, it's out.

          Somebody needs to go to jail.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

            They need to go to jail.

            Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

            The leak sounds illegal (I don't really know of any legal ways to leak a tax return).

            That said - once the info is out, it's out.

            I dunno what it means, haven't had a chance to look through myself yet.

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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #66

            @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

            @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

            They need to go to jail.

            Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

            The leak sounds illegal (I don't really know of any legal ways to leak a tax return).

            That said - once the info is out, it's out.

            That’s what this year taught me.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

              @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

              They need to go to jail.

              Trump. Biden. Clinton. I don't care. For stuff like this, somebody needs to go to jail.

              The leak sounds illegal (I don't really know of any legal ways to leak a tax return).

              That said - once the info is out, it's out.

              I dunno what it means, haven't had a chance to look through myself yet.

              Yep, once it's out, it's out.

              Somebody needs to go to jail.

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              Axtremus
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              #67

              @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

              Somebody needs to go to jail.

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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by Jolly
                #68

                You mean the gal that hung out with the dope dealer?

                She can't go to jail...Well, maybe if you dug up her corpse...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Personally guaranteed debt of $400MM due 2022, plus a disputed 72MM with the IRS.

                  I wonder who he owes that 400 million to?

                  That could bankrupt him personally.

                  Seems like a potential national security issue.

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                  Axtremus
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                  #69

                  @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  Personally guaranteed debt of $400MM due 2022, plus a disputed 72MM with the IRS.

                  I wonder who he owes that 400 million to?

                  That could bankrupt him personally.

                  Seems like a potential national security issue.

                  Speaker Pelosi is picking this up:

                  Trump taxes are 'national security' issue, Nancy Pelosi says
                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54332956

                  Speaking on NBC, Ms Pelosi said the report showed that "this president appears to have over $400m in debt".
                  "To whom? Different countries? What is the leverage they have?" she asked, adding: "So for me, this is a national security question."

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

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                    89th
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                    #70

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                    Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

                    1. Trump Steaks

                    2. GoTrump

                    3. Trump Airlines

                    4. Trump Vodka

                    5. Trump Mortgage

                    6. Trump: The Game

                    7. Trump Magazine

                    8. Trump University

                    9. Trump Ice

                    10. The New Jersey Generals

                    11. Tour de Trump

                    12. Trump Network

                    13. Trumped!

                    14. Trump Taj Mahal

                    15. Trump’s Castle

                    16. Trump Plaza Casinos

                    17. Trump Plaza Hotel

                    18. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

                    19. Trump Entertainment Resorts

                    ....wanna guess what these all have in common, besides having the name Trump in them?

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #71

                      It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #72

                        Krugman picked up on Trump’s debt problem as well:

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/opinion/trump-taxes-debt.html

                        The most important revelation from the Times report, however, is its confirmation of another thing many observers already suspected: Trump has hundreds of millions in personal debt. It’s unclear whether he has the resources to repay it.

                        Personal financial trouble has always been a red flag when it comes to filling sensitive government positions, because it’s an open invitation to corruption.

                        So the confirmation that the nation’s chief law enforcement and national security official — whose business empire already offers many opportunities for undue influence — is drowning in debt is chilling.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #73

                          Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                          Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                            Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

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                            xenon
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #74

                            @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                            Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                            Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                            Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

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                            • X xenon

                              @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                              Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                              Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                              Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #75

                              @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                              @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                              Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                              Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                              Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                              I dunno, maybe that works for you. But notice which threads take off around here...They ain't about Biden. And that's the case in other places I frequent and some I check occasionally.

                              Most conversations are Trump-centric.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                                Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                                Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                                I dunno, maybe that works for you. But notice which threads take off around here...They ain't about Biden. And that's the case in other places I frequent and some I check occasionally.

                                Most conversations are Trump-centric.

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                                xenon
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #76

                                @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                                Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                                Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                                I dunno, maybe that works for you. But notice which threads take off around here...They ain't about Biden. And that's the case in other places I frequent and some I check occasionally.

                                Most conversations are Trump-centric.

                                Biden is boring incarnate.

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                                  xenon
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                                  #77

                                  There's always a relevant Trump tweet:

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #78

                                    How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #79

                                      @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                      How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                                      Because the country preferred the unscripted internet troll to the scripted dirty politician.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                        Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

                                        1. Trump Steaks

                                        2. GoTrump

                                        3. Trump Airlines

                                        4. Trump Vodka

                                        5. Trump Mortgage

                                        6. Trump: The Game

                                        7. Trump Magazine

                                        8. Trump University

                                        9. Trump Ice

                                        10. The New Jersey Generals

                                        11. Tour de Trump

                                        12. Trump Network

                                        13. Trumped!

                                        14. Trump Taj Mahal

                                        15. Trump’s Castle

                                        16. Trump Plaza Casinos

                                        17. Trump Plaza Hotel

                                        18. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

                                        19. Trump Entertainment Resorts

                                        ....wanna guess what these all have in common, besides having the name Trump in them?

                                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #80

                                        @89th said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                        Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

                                        1. Trump Steaks

                                        2. GoTrump

                                        3. Trump Airlines

                                        4. Trump Vodka

                                        5. Trump Mortgage

                                        6. Trump: The Game

                                        7. Trump Magazine

                                        8. Trump University

                                        9. Trump Ice

                                        10. The New Jersey Generals

                                        11. Tour de Trump

                                        12. Trump Network

                                        13. Trumped!

                                        14. Trump Taj Mahal

                                        15. Trump’s Castle

                                        16. Trump Plaza Casinos

                                        17. Trump Plaza Hotel

                                        18. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

                                        19. Trump Entertainment Resorts

                                        ....wanna guess what these all have in common, besides having the name Trump in them?

                                        They're all the mark of a winner? Who keeps winning, on so many levels of D that it approaches infinity?

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

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                                          Rainman
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                                          #81

                                          @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                          It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

                                          jon jon jon.
                                          Please be clear. Is "we've always known" include everyone here, everyone in the world, everyone in the universe? Even God!!?? Could be, your mind-reading is that objective? And "always" must mean like centuries ago, like gravity, right? "We've always known..."

                                          "shit businessman" -- of course!, but that phrase just wouldn't fit on the side of one of his jets, so what's a guy gonna do.

                                          "first-rate self-promoter." That's true, I can't stand second rate self-promoters, know what I mean? Especially when he is surrounded by modest politicians, humble, quiet, deep. So many examples of humility in politics and all walks of life. Even Ax's piano playing!

                                          I never watched his "Apprentice" TV show. Heard it had quite the following. Thanks for keeping him afloat, though. And from a TV show, advancing to the presidency. . . so THAT'S how it's done! I have been misled all these years.

                                          And, I've decided that the Vette should be candy-apple red, with a tan ragtop. Definitely tan.

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