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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Personally guaranteed debt of $400MM due 2022, plus a disputed 72MM with the IRS.

    I wonder who he owes that 400 million to?

    That could bankrupt him personally.

    Seems like a potential national security issue.

    AxtremusA Away
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    @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

    Personally guaranteed debt of $400MM due 2022, plus a disputed 72MM with the IRS.

    I wonder who he owes that 400 million to?

    That could bankrupt him personally.

    Seems like a potential national security issue.

    Speaker Pelosi is picking this up:

    Trump taxes are 'national security' issue, Nancy Pelosi says
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54332956

    Speaking on NBC, Ms Pelosi said the report showed that "this president appears to have over $400m in debt".
    "To whom? Different countries? What is the leverage they have?" she asked, adding: "So for me, this is a national security question."

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

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      89th
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      #70

      @Aqua-Letifer said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

      Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

      1. Trump Steaks

      2. GoTrump

      3. Trump Airlines

      4. Trump Vodka

      5. Trump Mortgage

      6. Trump: The Game

      7. Trump Magazine

      8. Trump University

      9. Trump Ice

      10. The New Jersey Generals

      11. Tour de Trump

      12. Trump Network

      13. Trumped!

      14. Trump Taj Mahal

      15. Trump’s Castle

      16. Trump Plaza Casinos

      17. Trump Plaza Hotel

      18. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

      19. Trump Entertainment Resorts

      ....wanna guess what these all have in common, besides having the name Trump in them?

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        jon-nyc
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        #71

        It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          Axtremus
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          #72

          Krugman picked up on Trump’s debt problem as well:

          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/opinion/trump-taxes-debt.html

          The most important revelation from the Times report, however, is its confirmation of another thing many observers already suspected: Trump has hundreds of millions in personal debt. It’s unclear whether he has the resources to repay it.

          Personal financial trouble has always been a red flag when it comes to filling sensitive government positions, because it’s an open invitation to corruption.

          So the confirmation that the nation’s chief law enforcement and national security official — whose business empire already offers many opportunities for undue influence — is drowning in debt is chilling.

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            Jolly
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            #73

            Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

            Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

              Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

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              xenon
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              #74

              @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

              Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

              Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

              Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

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              • X xenon

                @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

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                Jolly
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                @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                I dunno, maybe that works for you. But notice which threads take off around here...They ain't about Biden. And that's the case in other places I frequent and some I check occasionally.

                Most conversations are Trump-centric.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                  Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                  Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                  I dunno, maybe that works for you. But notice which threads take off around here...They ain't about Biden. And that's the case in other places I frequent and some I check occasionally.

                  Most conversations are Trump-centric.

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                  xenon
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                  #76

                  @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  @xenon said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  Being a Republican, I generally do not vote multiple times, like some Demonrats. This year, I may make an exception...It's too much fun watching y'all screaming in the aisles at least once a week.

                  Re-elect Donald J. Trump!

                  Meh - he bothers me less than he used to for some reason. He’s an entertaining buffoon if nothing else.

                  I dunno, maybe that works for you. But notice which threads take off around here...They ain't about Biden. And that's the case in other places I frequent and some I check occasionally.

                  Most conversations are Trump-centric.

                  Biden is boring incarnate.

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                    xenon
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                    #77

                    There's always a relevant Trump tweet:

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #78

                      How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #79

                        @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                        How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                        Because the country preferred the unscripted internet troll to the scripted dirty politician.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                          Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

                          1. Trump Steaks

                          2. GoTrump

                          3. Trump Airlines

                          4. Trump Vodka

                          5. Trump Mortgage

                          6. Trump: The Game

                          7. Trump Magazine

                          8. Trump University

                          9. Trump Ice

                          10. The New Jersey Generals

                          11. Tour de Trump

                          12. Trump Network

                          13. Trumped!

                          14. Trump Taj Mahal

                          15. Trump’s Castle

                          16. Trump Plaza Casinos

                          17. Trump Plaza Hotel

                          18. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

                          19. Trump Entertainment Resorts

                          ....wanna guess what these all have in common, besides having the name Trump in them?

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #80

                          @89th said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                          Don't the details that were publicized mean that either he's using loopholes, legal though they may be, or he's not the successful captain of industry his devotees make him out to be?

                          1. Trump Steaks

                          2. GoTrump

                          3. Trump Airlines

                          4. Trump Vodka

                          5. Trump Mortgage

                          6. Trump: The Game

                          7. Trump Magazine

                          8. Trump University

                          9. Trump Ice

                          10. The New Jersey Generals

                          11. Tour de Trump

                          12. Trump Network

                          13. Trumped!

                          14. Trump Taj Mahal

                          15. Trump’s Castle

                          16. Trump Plaza Casinos

                          17. Trump Plaza Hotel

                          18. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

                          19. Trump Entertainment Resorts

                          ....wanna guess what these all have in common, besides having the name Trump in them?

                          They're all the mark of a winner? Who keeps winning, on so many levels of D that it approaches infinity?

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

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                            Rainman
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                            #81

                            @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                            It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

                            jon jon jon.
                            Please be clear. Is "we've always known" include everyone here, everyone in the world, everyone in the universe? Even God!!?? Could be, your mind-reading is that objective? And "always" must mean like centuries ago, like gravity, right? "We've always known..."

                            "shit businessman" -- of course!, but that phrase just wouldn't fit on the side of one of his jets, so what's a guy gonna do.

                            "first-rate self-promoter." That's true, I can't stand second rate self-promoters, know what I mean? Especially when he is surrounded by modest politicians, humble, quiet, deep. So many examples of humility in politics and all walks of life. Even Ax's piano playing!

                            I never watched his "Apprentice" TV show. Heard it had quite the following. Thanks for keeping him afloat, though. And from a TV show, advancing to the presidency. . . so THAT'S how it's done! I have been misled all these years.

                            And, I've decided that the Vette should be candy-apple red, with a tan ragtop. Definitely tan.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

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                              Larry
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                              #82

                              @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                              It confirms what we’ve always known - he’s a shit businessman and a first rate self-promoter. The Apprentice kept him afloat and gave him a platform from which advanced to the presidency.

                              No, it's called licensing your brand.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #83

                                It would be funny if it werent so sad, watching some of you show how ignorant you are of how business works. I guess its true that some people just need to stick to desk jobs.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #84

                                  @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                  How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                                  See the other half of the quote.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #85

                                    @Rainman Self-promotion can sometimes be more remunerative than business acumen. Much, much more in Trump’s case.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #86

                                      @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                      How, pray tell, did a shit businessman manage to get himself elected president?

                                      The same way that shit actors manage to get themselves elected governor of California, and in some cases President?

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #87

                                        Trump has a point about taxes.

                                        I think everybody with any level of income, should pay taxes. Any income.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #88

                                          I think he needs to not discuss it in the debates. Been audited, no laws broken, end of story.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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