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Fable 5

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #9

    Well in this context I would expect it to be permanent. IOW I imagine all future models will have capabilities that aren’t safe to give to jihaddists.

    Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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    • KlausK Offline
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      I wonder whether the differences in tool capabilities between the competitors will increase or decrease.

      Usually one would expect that the competition catches up at some point, but if the "LLM improves itself" thing becomes real, a small competitive edge may soon become huge, similarly to how a small difference in interest rates can lead to huge differences in outcome after a while.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @jon-nyc said:

        Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

        How long do eras typically last nowadays?

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        @Doctor-Phibes said:

        @jon-nyc said:

        Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

        How long do eras typically last nowadays?

        I mean, yesterday the most advanced war tactic was blowing up pagers. Today it's a step-by-step recipe on how to annihilate the human race. Like & subscribe!

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Maybe next week AI will figure out a way for me to find that thing, the name of which I can't remember, but that I put down somewhere. I'm sure I've seen it about - surely you know what I'm talking about?

          I was only joking

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            Your dignity?

            Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Your dignity?

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              @jon-nyc said:
              Your dignity?

              Link to video

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                The latest frontier model from Anthropic. Clearly the leading model right now.

                But here’s the interesting part - parts of it are too risky to be released to the general public, says Anthropic. For now no one except trusted partners have access to the complete model, which includes biology, chemistry, cybersecurity, and model distillation. Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

                On the other hand, lots of other AI developers are criticizing them, calling it hype, asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety, etc. But at the end of the day Anthropic has the top models and they don’t.

                Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

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                @jon-nyc said:

                Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

                Sure enough, after doing some fucking PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE RESEARCH for 20 minutes, I get this:

                54886e8e-6ab9-4c74-9a26-847400ff76f6-image.jpeg

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                  Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

                  I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                  Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

                    I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

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                    @jon-nyc said:

                    I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                    Alternatively, the whackos will find a way around it and we'll all die horribly.

                    I was only joking

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                      Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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