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  • KlausK Online
    KlausK Online
    Klaus
    wrote last edited by
    #5

    My PhD students say it's significantly better at generating mechanized mathematical proofs than Opus, and actually even cheaper in terms of token consumption.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #6

      asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety

      They’re not “arbiters of public safety,” they’re owner of a tool deciding who, and for what purposes, they allow to use said tool.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #7

        Yeah I recognize the other groups complaints as containing a large bunch of sour grapes.

        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          The latest frontier model from Anthropic. Clearly the leading model right now.

          But here’s the interesting part - parts of it are too risky to be released to the general public, says Anthropic. For now no one except trusted partners have access to the complete model, which includes biology, chemistry, cybersecurity, and model distillation. Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

          On the other hand, lots of other AI developers are criticizing them, calling it hype, asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety, etc. But at the end of the day Anthropic has the top models and they don’t.

          Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor Phibes
          wrote last edited by
          #8

          @jon-nyc said:

          Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

          How long do eras typically last nowadays?

          I was only joking

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            #9

            Well in this context I would expect it to be permanent. IOW I imagine all future models will have capabilities that aren’t safe to give to jihaddists.

            There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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            • KlausK Online
              KlausK Online
              Klaus
              wrote last edited by
              #10

              I wonder whether the differences in tool capabilities between the competitors will increase or decrease.

              Usually one would expect that the competition catches up at some point, but if the "LLM improves itself" thing becomes real, a small competitive edge may soon become huge, similarly to how a small difference in interest rates can lead to huge differences in outcome after a while.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @jon-nyc said:

                Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

                How long do eras typically last nowadays?

                89th8 Online
                89th8 Online
                89th
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                @Doctor-Phibes said:

                @jon-nyc said:

                Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

                How long do eras typically last nowadays?

                I mean, yesterday the most advanced war tactic was blowing up pagers. Today it's a step-by-step recipe on how to annihilate the human race. Like & subscribe!

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #12

                  Maybe next week AI will figure out a way for me to find that thing, the name of which I can't remember, but that I put down somewhere. I'm sure I've seen it about - surely you know what I'm talking about?

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    Your dignity?

                    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Your dignity?

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #14

                      @jon-nyc said:
                      Your dignity?

                      Link to video

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        The latest frontier model from Anthropic. Clearly the leading model right now.

                        But here’s the interesting part - parts of it are too risky to be released to the general public, says Anthropic. For now no one except trusted partners have access to the complete model, which includes biology, chemistry, cybersecurity, and model distillation. Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

                        On the other hand, lots of other AI developers are criticizing them, calling it hype, asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety, etc. But at the end of the day Anthropic has the top models and they don’t.

                        Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

                        KlausK Online
                        KlausK Online
                        Klaus
                        wrote last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said:

                        Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

                        Sure enough, after doing some fucking PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE RESEARCH for 20 minutes, I get this:

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          #16

                          Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

                          I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

                            I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said:

                            I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                            Alternatively, the whackos will find a way around it and we'll all die horribly.

                            I was only joking

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