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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #7

    Yeah I recognize the other groups complaints as containing a large bunch of sour grapes.

    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      The latest frontier model from Anthropic. Clearly the leading model right now.

      But here’s the interesting part - parts of it are too risky to be released to the general public, says Anthropic. For now no one except trusted partners have access to the complete model, which includes biology, chemistry, cybersecurity, and model distillation. Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

      On the other hand, lots of other AI developers are criticizing them, calling it hype, asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety, etc. But at the end of the day Anthropic has the top models and they don’t.

      Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

      Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #8

      @jon-nyc said:

      Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

      How long do eras typically last nowadays?

      I was only joking

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #9

        Well in this context I would expect it to be permanent. IOW I imagine all future models will have capabilities that aren’t safe to give to jihaddists.

        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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        • KlausK Online
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          Klaus
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          #10

          I wonder whether the differences in tool capabilities between the competitors will increase or decrease.

          Usually one would expect that the competition catches up at some point, but if the "LLM improves itself" thing becomes real, a small competitive edge may soon become huge, similarly to how a small difference in interest rates can lead to huge differences in outcome after a while.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @jon-nyc said:

            Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

            How long do eras typically last nowadays?

            89th8 Online
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            89th
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            @Doctor-Phibes said:

            @jon-nyc said:

            Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

            How long do eras typically last nowadays?

            I mean, yesterday the most advanced war tactic was blowing up pagers. Today it's a step-by-step recipe on how to annihilate the human race. Like & subscribe!

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
              Doctor PhibesD Online
              Doctor Phibes
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              #12

              Maybe next week AI will figure out a way for me to find that thing, the name of which I can't remember, but that I put down somewhere. I'm sure I've seen it about - surely you know what I'm talking about?

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                Your dignity?

                There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Your dignity?

                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #14

                  @jon-nyc said:
                  Your dignity?

                  Link to video

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    The latest frontier model from Anthropic. Clearly the leading model right now.

                    But here’s the interesting part - parts of it are too risky to be released to the general public, says Anthropic. For now no one except trusted partners have access to the complete model, which includes biology, chemistry, cybersecurity, and model distillation. Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

                    On the other hand, lots of other AI developers are criticizing them, calling it hype, asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety, etc. But at the end of the day Anthropic has the top models and they don’t.

                    Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

                    KlausK Online
                    KlausK Online
                    Klaus
                    wrote last edited by
                    #15

                    @jon-nyc said:

                    Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

                    Sure enough, after doing some fucking PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE RESEARCH for 20 minutes, I get this:

                    54886e8e-6ab9-4c74-9a26-847400ff76f6-image.jpeg

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      #16

                      Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

                      I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

                        I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote last edited by
                        #17

                        @jon-nyc said:

                        I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

                        Alternatively, the whackos will find a way around it and we'll all die horribly.

                        I was only joking

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