<![CDATA[Fable 5]]>The latest frontier model from Anthropic. Clearly the leading model right now.

But here’s the interesting part - parts of it are too risky to be released to the general public, says Anthropic. For now no one except trusted partners have access to the complete model, which includes biology, chemistry, cybersecurity, and model distillation. Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

On the other hand, lots of other AI developers are criticizing them, calling it hype, asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety, etc. But at the end of the day Anthropic has the top models and they don’t.

Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/39712/fable-5RSS for NodeMon, 15 Jun 2026 14:42:54 GMTThu, 11 Jun 2026 02:45:30 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 21:26:20 GMT]]>

@jon-nyc said:

I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

Alternatively, the whackos will find a way around it and we'll all die horribly.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363908https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363908Thu, 11 Jun 2026 21:26:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 20:13:38 GMT]]>Someone prompted ‘So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right?’ and it halted.

I assume they’ll improve this at some point and refine what gets flagged.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363907https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363907Thu, 11 Jun 2026 20:13:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:10:04 GMT]]>

@jon-nyc said:

Everyone one else gets a version that reverts to Opus 4.8 for any question at all in those four areas. Apparently it’s too fucking good at telling you how to make bioweapons etc.

Sure enough, after doing some fucking PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE RESEARCH for 20 minutes, I get this:

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]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363903https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363903Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:10:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:37:40 GMT]]>

@jon-nyc said:
Your dignity?

Link to video

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363901https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363901Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:37:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:52:37 GMT]]>Your dignity?

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363896https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363896Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:52:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:19:58 GMT]]>Maybe next week AI will figure out a way for me to find that thing, the name of which I can't remember, but that I put down somewhere. I'm sure I've seen it about - surely you know what I'm talking about?

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363888https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363888Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:19:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:14:22 GMT]]>

@Doctor-Phibes said:

@jon-nyc said:

Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

How long do eras typically last nowadays?

I mean, yesterday the most advanced war tactic was blowing up pagers. Today it's a step-by-step recipe on how to annihilate the human race. Like & subscribe!

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363885https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363885Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:14:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:05:59 GMT]]>I wonder whether the differences in tool capabilities between the competitors will increase or decrease.

Usually one would expect that the competition catches up at some point, but if the "LLM improves itself" thing becomes real, a small competitive edge may soon become huge, similarly to how a small difference in interest rates can lead to huge differences in outcome after a while.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363881https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363881Thu, 11 Jun 2026 14:05:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:37:35 GMT]]>Well in this context I would expect it to be permanent. IOW I imagine all future models will have capabilities that aren’t safe to give to jihaddists.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363879https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363879Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:37:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:33:14 GMT]]>

@jon-nyc said:

Anyway, it’s probably the beginning of a new era in AI.

How long do eras typically last nowadays?

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363877https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363877Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:33:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:30:13 GMT]]>Yeah I recognize the other groups complaints as containing a large bunch of sour grapes.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363875https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363875Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:30:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:26:48 GMT]]>

asking who elected them as the arbiters of AI safety

They’re not “arbiters of public safety,” they’re owner of a tool deciding who, and for what purposes, they allow to use said tool.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363873https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363873Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:26:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:40:50 GMT]]>My PhD students say it's significantly better at generating mechanized mathematical proofs than Opus, and actually even cheaper in terms of token consumption.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363864https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363864Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:40:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 06:32:48 GMT]]>The real improvement is supposed to be in long-horizon let-it-run agentic work.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363862https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363862Thu, 11 Jun 2026 06:32:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 05:37:03 GMT]]>Already tried it for some coding yesterday. Didn't notice a big difference to Opus yet.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363861https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363861Thu, 11 Jun 2026 05:37:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fable 5 on Thu, 11 Jun 2026 03:30:01 GMT]]>I was a late adopter of AI. It is remarkable how fast it's moving. Totally predicted months/years ago, but wild to see. The other night I built a prototype of a website I want to use to provide interaction with various products/prototypes my company is building, and I did it in like 10 minutes. Would've taken weeks, before.

]]>https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363860https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/363860Thu, 11 Jun 2026 03:30:01 GMT