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AI and partisan politics

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Neither did MAGA 10 years ago. Maybe the realignment is just starting.

    This reminds me of the comment from the guy on Odd Lots - who after Trump can effectively ‘straddle the two Ps’ (populism and Peter Thiel, the latter being an avatar for the tech right)

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    @jon-nyc said in AI and partisan politics:

    Neither did MAGA 10 years ago. Maybe the realignment is just starting.

    This reminds me of the comment from the guy on Odd Lots - who after Trump can effectively ‘straddle the two Ps’ (populism and Peter Thiel, the latter being an avatar for the tech right)

    Like anybody even knows what that is. Ok. I get it. Their ideas. Nobody even knows what that is.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Ask your buddy with a neutral prompt.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        Think about H1-Bs, tariffs, industrial policy re old school manufacturing, and yes, AI regulation

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Think about H1-Bs, tariffs, industrial policy re old school manufacturing, and yes, AI regulation

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          @jon-nyc you probably imagine that you and I disagree on some neutral point.

          Education is extremely important.

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            I disagree.

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              Somehow I missed this.

              https://www.flgov.com/eog/news/press/2025/governor-ron-desantis-announces-proposal-citizen-bill-rights-artificial

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Somehow I missed this.

                https://www.flgov.com/eog/news/press/2025/governor-ron-desantis-announces-proposal-citizen-bill-rights-artificial

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                @jon-nyc said in AI and partisan politics:

                Somehow I missed this.

                https://www.flgov.com/eog/news/press/2025/governor-ron-desantis-announces-proposal-citizen-bill-rights-artificial

                How does that jive with Trump’s policy to not allow states to regulate AI?

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                  The policy needs to go through Congress.

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                    The Constitution is silent on tech developments. It's fair game for the states.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        I'm entirely confident that AI oversight will be a bipartisan priority.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Can we get rid of executive orders already? Or substantially reduce the ability to use it and bypass the legislative branch?

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                            First, you need a functioning Legislative Branch ...

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                              I think not long from now when it sinks in a lot of Trump’s supporters are going to be pissed that he didn’t even try to introduce immigration reform legislation. I don’t think it would have been hard to pass something reforming asylum laws, for example.

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                                It looks to me the majority of Trump's supporter is more into performative pwning of the libs than fixing the immigration system.

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                                  Can we get rid of executive orders already? Or substantially reduce the ability to use it and bypass the legislative branch?

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                                  @89th said:

                                  Can we get rid of executive orders already? Or substantially reduce the ability to use it and bypass the legislative branch?

                                  President Trump agrees with you!!!

                                  In 2012, Trump tweeted, "Why is @BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders that are major power grabs of authority?"

                                  During a campaign event in 2016, he remarked, "The country wasn’t based on executive orders... It’s a basic disaster."

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    I think not long from now when it sinks in a lot of Trump’s supporters are going to be pissed that he didn’t even try to introduce immigration reform legislation. I don’t think it would have been hard to pass something reforming asylum laws, for example.

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                                    @jon-nyc said:

                                    I think not long from now when it sinks in a lot of Trump’s supporters are going to be pissed that he didn’t even try to introduce immigration reform legislation. I don’t think it would have been hard to pass something reforming asylum laws, for example.

                                    Agreed, totally. If there’s no effort in this direction it was just an election issue.

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      This is interesting

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                                        If the concern is impact on local banks and smaller businesses, you'd figure they should be talking to those local banks and smaller businesses. 🤷

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                                          Who’s ’they’ in your sentence.

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