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AI and domestic politics

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    #25

    The policy needs to go through Congress.

    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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    • MikM Offline
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      The Constitution is silent on tech developments. It's fair game for the states.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          I'm entirely confident that AI oversight will be a bipartisan priority.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Can we get rid of executive orders already? Or substantially reduce the ability to use it and bypass the legislative branch?

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              First, you need a functioning Legislative Branch ...

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                I think not long from now when it sinks in a lot of Trump’s supporters are going to be pissed that he didn’t even try to introduce immigration reform legislation. I don’t think it would have been hard to pass something reforming asylum laws, for example.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  It looks to me the majority of Trump's supporter is more into performative pwning of the libs than fixing the immigration system.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Can we get rid of executive orders already? Or substantially reduce the ability to use it and bypass the legislative branch?

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                    @89th said:

                    Can we get rid of executive orders already? Or substantially reduce the ability to use it and bypass the legislative branch?

                    President Trump agrees with you!!!

                    In 2012, Trump tweeted, "Why is @BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders that are major power grabs of authority?"

                    During a campaign event in 2016, he remarked, "The country wasn’t based on executive orders... It’s a basic disaster."

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I think not long from now when it sinks in a lot of Trump’s supporters are going to be pissed that he didn’t even try to introduce immigration reform legislation. I don’t think it would have been hard to pass something reforming asylum laws, for example.

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                      @jon-nyc said:

                      I think not long from now when it sinks in a lot of Trump’s supporters are going to be pissed that he didn’t even try to introduce immigration reform legislation. I don’t think it would have been hard to pass something reforming asylum laws, for example.

                      Agreed, totally. If there’s no effort in this direction it was just an election issue.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        This is interesting

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                          If the concern is impact on local banks and smaller businesses, you'd figure they should be talking to those local banks and smaller businesses. 🤷

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            Who’s ’they’ in your sentence.

                            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                              The populists are really unhappy with the idea of AI taking over for human production. Certain American political movements will happily strangle our global competitiveness going forward.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Jesus. I’d like to say it’s DOA but there’s a 50% chance Trump jumps on board with the concept.

                                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Who’s ’they’ in your sentence.

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                                  @jon-nyc said:

                                  Who’s ’they’ in your sentence.

                                  Was responding to the X/tweet that says "VP JD Vance held a secret call with CEOs of giant AI companies including Elon Musk, Dario Amodei and Sam Altman."

                                  The 'they' in my sentence refers to JD Vance and the CEOs of giant AI companies cited in the X/tweet.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Jesus. I’d like to say it’s DOA but there’s a 50% chance Trump jumps on board with the concept.

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                                    @jon-nyc said:

                                    Jesus. I’d like to say it’s DOA but there’s a 50% chance Trump jumps on board with the concept.

                                    Maybe that's how Bernie thinks the US should compete with China when it comes to AI? Sounds quite a bit like the sort of things that communist China would do.

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                                      That’s definitely not what Bernie’s thinking. Have you heard him on this issue?

                                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                        Tons of people want to strangle AI out of existence, and the older generation of voters will have to die off before that movement is DOA.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          That’s definitely not what Bernie’s thinking. Have you heard him on this issue?

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                                          @jon-nyc said:

                                          Have you heard [Bernie] on this issue?

                                          Not really ... he does not strike me as someone worth listening to when it comes to cutting edge technology. 🤷

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