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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #116

    https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/off-duty-twin-cities-officers-profiled-ice/

    Police chief says 'Off-duty Twin Cities officers among those "targeted" by ICE agents looking for proof of U.S. citizenship' ...

    "I wish I could tell you that this was an isolated incident. In fact, many of the chiefs standing behind me have similar incidents with their off-duty officers," [police chief] Bruley said.

    🤷

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      #117

      It was one of the ‘fuck you, bitch’ shots that killed her.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • MikM Away
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        As I said, while she contributed to her fate, I think he's responsible.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          Yeah well summarized.

          Also if you watch videos of other police shootings, usually the office is completely distraught over it. This guy, not so much.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            #120

            Public opinion on ICE:

            IMG_8136.jpeg

            Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/politics/poll-ice-immigration.html?unlocked_article_code=1.GlA.H1W-.menbHL_P0R_d

            Over 80% of Republicans think ICE's enforcement are "just right" or want ICE to go even harder.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              I think if everyone saw what was really happening (or again, just go on reddit) absolutely no one would think they're doing about right or not enough. It's appalling.

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              • 89th8 89th

                I think if everyone saw what was really happening (or again, just go on reddit) absolutely no one would think they're doing about right or not enough. It's appalling.

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                @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                I think if everyone saw what was really happening (or again, just go on reddit) …

                Republicans choose to consume different media. E.g., they may choose FoxNews-like outlets that air segments on government welfare fraud rather than ICE activities in Minnesota. You may not be effective at getting the Republicans to see “what was really happening.”

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  It was one of the ‘fuck you, bitch’ shots that killed her.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  @jon-nyc said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                  It was one of the ‘fuck you, bitch’ shots that killed her.

                  The "bitch" comment wasn't even from the shooter, last I heard. But yes it's long been stipulated that there were shots from the side of the car, after the first from the front. Any one of them may have stochastically entered her head. You are really interestingly precious about this situation that, if the politics were reversed, you'd just be silently happy about. As you were with Ashley Babbit.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    #124

                    There’s absolutely nothing in my posting history to suggest I reflexively take the partisan view of controversial shootings as some sort of default. Go back to Michael Brown threads, the Staten Island guy with the headlock, whatever.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      #125

                      No I'm just really confident that you were satisfied by the Ashley Babbit shooting. I know the others are more ambiguous to you, in fact you probably agree with me on the rest of them.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        (My own opinion on Ashley Babbit is FAFO.)

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          #127

                          Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                          And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

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                            He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

                              HoraceH Offline
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                              #129

                              @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                              He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

                              Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please. But hey you know 10 Capitol police who committed suicide because they were employed to quell a riot. So you know. You really know.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                  Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                  And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                  And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please. But hey you know 10 Capitol police who committed suicide because they were employed to quell a riot. So you know. You really know.

                                  89th8 Offline
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                                  @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                  @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                  Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                  And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                  And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

                                  Sorry, you know me. 🙂

                                  Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                    @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                    Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                    And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                    And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

                                    Sorry, you know me. 🙂

                                    Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    #132

                                    @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                    @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                    @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                    Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                    And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                    And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

                                    Sorry, you know me. 🙂

                                    Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

                                    It’s an interesting contrast with your weepiness about all the Capitol police suicides you were familiar with, as a result of the impossibility of living through Jan 6. As you like to note, when the political poles are reversed, attitudes change.

                                    What was the tally of Capitol police officers who killed themselves due to the weight of living through Jan 6 again? As I recall, you kept close count. It could be up to like a thousand by now. I wouldn’t trade a single one of those magnificent heroes for a thousand fascist ICE officers. I’ll tell you that.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                      He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

                                      Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
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                                      #133

                                      @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                      @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                      He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

                                      Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

                                      This week, you’re fuckin’ right. Elbows are up so stay out of the corners.

                                      RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                        @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                        He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

                                        Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

                                        This week, you’re fuckin’ right. Elbows are up so stay out of the corners.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                          @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                          @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                          Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                                          And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                                          And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

                                          Sorry, you know me. 🙂

                                          Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

                                          It’s an interesting contrast with your weepiness about all the Capitol police suicides you were familiar with, as a result of the impossibility of living through Jan 6. As you like to note, when the political poles are reversed, attitudes change.

                                          What was the tally of Capitol police officers who killed themselves due to the weight of living through Jan 6 again? As I recall, you kept close count. It could be up to like a thousand by now. I wouldn’t trade a single one of those magnificent heroes for a thousand fascist ICE officers. I’ll tell you that.

                                          89th8 Offline
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                                          @Horace I’m confused. Think sleep is in order.

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