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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    #98

    That will be interesting. As Musk said previously something like:

    " President Trump will be around for three more years. Me (and my money) will be around for 30 more years."

    How much influence will President Trump have after he is finished with the president? At least at the beginning, quite a bit. Obviously, a lot depends on how the next three years go. But, he will always have the strong support of ~30% of the population, no matter what he does or what happens. And those are the type of people who vote in the primary.

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      Trump not happy.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Elon threatens to find a primary challenge to every republican who votes for this bill.

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        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        Elon threatens to find a primary challenge to every republican who votes for this bill.

        Of all the people who end with "...if it's the last thing I do on this Earth", he's the closest to actually building a place somewhere else in space to go.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I have no idea either way. But it seems pretty clear that whether China or the US ‘wins’ AI matters a lot, and electricity figures large in that.

          We should be ‘all of the above’ x 100 rather than taxing modern “gay” energy while subsidizing 19th century “manly” energy.

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          @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

          We should be ‘all of the above’ x 100 rather than taxing modern “gay” energy while subsidizing 19th century “manly” energy.

          From the co-author of Abundance

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            #102

            Senate passed it.

            Now the fun goes back to the house.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              In today's GOP, a "fiscal conservative" is someone who expresses "serious deficit concerns" about a $5 trillion bill before ultimately voting for it.

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              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  Shhhh!

                  President Trump said it was okay to vote for this.

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                    Yeah - the GOP is now pretty firmly... something else.

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                      A new absurdity in the bill:

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/upshot/republicans-food-aid-alaska.html

                      It goes like this:

                      • the intent was originally was to make the states that have higher error rates when it comes to administering the food stamp programs pay more -- supposedly this is to encourage states to "have skin in the game" to lower error rates when administering the food stamp programs.
                      • But to get Murkowski's vote, with Murkowski representing the state with the highest food stamp administration error rate, the Senate bill ended up adding a provision that exempts states whose food stamp error rates exceeding certain threshold from having to pay anything at all (at least for a while).
                      • so if the Senate bill ended comes to pass, the states with high error rates will be exempt from paying for the food stamps (at least for a while), while states with low-enough food error rates will have to pay something.
                      • in effect, this may end up incentivizing states to jack up their food stamp administration error rates (at least for a while) to avoid having to pay anything towards the their food stamp programs.

                      The modern GOP really sucks at governing.

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