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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #103

    In today's GOP, a "fiscal conservative" is someone who expresses "serious deficit concerns" about a $5 trillion bill before ultimately voting for it.

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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      wrote last edited by
      #104

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      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #105

        Shhhh!

        President Trump said it was okay to vote for this.

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        • X Offline
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          xenon
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          #106

          Yeah - the GOP is now pretty firmly... something else.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            #107

            A new absurdity in the bill:

            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/upshot/republicans-food-aid-alaska.html

            It goes like this:

            • the intent was originally was to make the states that have higher error rates when it comes to administering the food stamp programs pay more -- supposedly this is to encourage states to "have skin in the game" to lower error rates when administering the food stamp programs.
            • But to get Murkowski's vote, with Murkowski representing the state with the highest food stamp administration error rate, the Senate bill ended up adding a provision that exempts states whose food stamp error rates exceeding certain threshold from having to pay anything at all (at least for a while).
            • so if the Senate bill ended comes to pass, the states with high error rates will be exempt from paying for the food stamps (at least for a while), while states with low-enough food error rates will have to pay something.
            • in effect, this may end up incentivizing states to jack up their food stamp administration error rates (at least for a while) to avoid having to pay anything towards the their food stamp programs.

            The modern GOP really sucks at governing.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #108

              Hakeem Jeffries - “The bill will unleash a deportation machine on steroids”

              “An all out assault on the care provided by Planned Parenthood”

              Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

              The Brad

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                Hakeem Jeffries - “The bill will unleash a deportation machine on steroids”

                “An all out assault on the care provided by Planned Parenthood”

                Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

                AxtremusA Offline
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                @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

                You trying to admit that you are gullible?

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                  Personally, I can’t stand this stack of crap that is being pushed in this bill, but the extension of the tax cuts? This is a sword of Damocles thing. We’re basically effed either way, with the only real small but possible solution being growing our way out of the current hole we are in. I don’t see raising taxes to be an effective method to stimulate growth. And while I have moral and ethical problems with the removal of taxes on tip wages and overtime, the practical effect is negligible, and I have always had an issue with taxing SS income.

                  The Brad

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

                    You trying to admit that you are gullible?

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    @Axtremus said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    Hakeem is making me reconsider my opposition to this bill.

                    You trying to admit that you are gullible?

                    I’m trying to say that the biggest allies to DJT and MAGA are his opponents. What a sad and miserable lot.

                    The Brad

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #112

                      Gee, I wonder what time the house held its procedural vote on the largest debt increase in human history?

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                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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