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Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #41

    It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.

    I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.

    Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

      @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

      If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

      Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.

      OK, peanut.

      You fix the problem. What's your solution?

      Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #42

      @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

      You fix the problem. What's your solution?

      Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.

      A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.

      I was only joking

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.

        I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.

        Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.

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        #43

        @jon-nyc said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

        It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.

        I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.

        Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.

        The only way I see it happening is if Trump gets his name on it, not a bad idea actually. Call the Trump Country Savior act or something and let it be set in stone for 20 years. It’ll slowly save the country and he’ll headline it!

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

          You fix the problem. What's your solution?

          Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.

          A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #44

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

          @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

          You fix the problem. What's your solution?

          Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.

          A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.

          You couldn't get both sides to agree on free sex. Dream on.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #45

            OK, let's just keep lying about how it's the government employees on the take, and security scroungers and dead Democrats. Find somebody to blame, and move on, in other words.

            I was only joking

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

              @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

              You fix the problem. What's your solution?

              Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.

              A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.

              You couldn't get both sides to agree on free sex. Dream on.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #46

              @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

              @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

              You fix the problem. What's your solution?

              Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.

              A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.

              You couldn't get both sides to agree on free sex. Dream on.

              You could, but all the Dem women want to bring their strap-ons…

              The Brad

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                Jolly
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                #47

                Hoo-ah!

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #48

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #49

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                    I was only joking

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote on last edited by 89th
                      #50

                      Yeah it’s bad. How can he be so smart and so dumb.

                      I had just made that comment about the survey claim in the DOGE interview thread.

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                        Horace
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                        #51

                        Musk literally never said that the National Park Service paid that money. But it's interesting that in order to dunk, this guy felt the need to reframe Musk's words slightly. Later in the interview one of the DOGE guys mentioned that it was connected to the Dept of the Interior, which I'm sure has a larger budget.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by Horace
                          #52

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                          This is what they're probably talking about:

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #53

                            How about a pat on the back to DOGE for exposing this hilarious retirement mine fiasco? Nobody wants to high five them for that?

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              #54

                              What are you talking about? Musk says clearly in the video:

                              IMG_2525.jpeg

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                What are you talking about? Musk says clearly in the video:

                                IMG_2525.jpeg

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                                #55

                                @89th Musk said "the government" paid it. (Turns out it was an unsigned contract at the Dept of Interior.) The dunker on Twitter claimed that Musk said "The National Park Service" paid it, then gave the park service's annual budget, and declared victory. Musk never said the park service was paying the survey contract. Anyway, the details as they've been uncovered, are above, and the claim that it's a single survey for $830m still doesn't stand up to scrutiny, but there is a lot of money being paid for survey consulting, which DOGE is ending.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  89th
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                                  #56

                                  Holy crap all I did was post the transcript. Was what he said accurate or not? I don’t care about other dunkers or tweets.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    How about a pat on the back to DOGE for exposing this hilarious retirement mine fiasco? Nobody wants to high five them for that?

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                                    #57

                                    @Horace said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                    How about a pat on the back to DOGE for exposing this hilarious retirement mine fiasco? Nobody wants to high five them for that?

                                    You do realize this mine wasn’t a secret before? Maybe Elon discovered it but it’s not new. Further a former manager of the site said there’s “no elevator that restricts how many files (therefore people) can retire per month. It’s literally on the same level as the entrance.” And there isn’t a cap of 10,000 or 8,000 per month, the mine has nothing to do with the pace of retirements processed each month.”

                                    Sometimes I feel like Lt. Daniel Kaffee.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Holy crap all I did was post the transcript. Was what he said accurate or not? I don’t care about other dunkers or tweets.

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                                      Horace
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                                      #58

                                      @89th said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                      Holy crap all I did was post the transcript. Was what he said accurate or not? I don’t care about other dunkers or tweets.

                                      Asked and answered.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Horace said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                        How about a pat on the back to DOGE for exposing this hilarious retirement mine fiasco? Nobody wants to high five them for that?

                                        You do realize this mine wasn’t a secret before? Maybe Elon discovered it but it’s not new. Further a former manager of the site said there’s “no elevator that restricts how many files (therefore people) can retire per month. It’s literally on the same level as the entrance.” And there isn’t a cap of 10,000 or 8,000 per month, the mine has nothing to do with the pace of retirements processed each month.”

                                        Sometimes I feel like Lt. Daniel Kaffee.

                                        HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
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                                        #59

                                        @89th said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                        @Horace said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                        How about a pat on the back to DOGE for exposing this hilarious retirement mine fiasco? Nobody wants to high five them for that?

                                        You do realize this mine wasn’t a secret before? Maybe Elon discovered it but it’s not new. Further a former manager of the site said there’s “no elevator that restricts how many files (therefore people) can retire per month. It’s literally on the same level as the entrance.” And there isn’t a cap of 10,000 or 8,000 per month, the mine has nothing to do with the pace of retirements processed each month.”

                                        Sometimes I feel like Lt. Daniel Kaffee.

                                        Illegal immigration wasn't a secret before Trump, either. Attention has a way of changing priorities.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @89th said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                          Holy crap all I did was post the transcript. Was what he said accurate or not? I don’t care about other dunkers or tweets.

                                          Asked and answered.

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                                          89th
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                                          @Horace said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                          @89th said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                          Holy crap all I did was post the transcript. Was what he said accurate or not? I don’t care about other dunkers or tweets.

                                          Asked and answered.

                                          Ok, you think the government was being charged $1,000,000,000 for a one question survey. Got it.

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