Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?
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wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 14:13 last edited by
Because Elon is right. We're $2T in the hole. That's abuse, pure and simple. We're digging a hole where debt payment is going to swallow a massive portion of the budget and truly needed programs will be curtailed or ended.
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wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 14:35 last edited by
He didn’t say ‘we have a 2T deficit’. That would have been a factual albeit banal observation. He said we have 2T of waste and fraud. He knows otherwise.
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wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:20 last edited by
If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.
Unless you wish to not equate incompetence with waste.
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If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.
Unless you wish to not equate incompetence with waste.
wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 18:57 last edited by@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.
Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.
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@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.
Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.
wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 19:04 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.
Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.
OK, peanut.
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
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wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 20:05 last edited by jon-nyc
It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.
I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.
Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.
Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.
OK, peanut.
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 20:20 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.
A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.
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It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.
I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.
Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.
wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 20:51 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.
I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.
Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.
The only way I see it happening is if Trump gets his name on it, not a bad idea actually. Call the Trump Country Savior act or something and let it be set in stone for 20 years. It’ll slowly save the country and he’ll headline it!
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@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.
A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.
wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 20:54 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.
A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.
You couldn't get both sides to agree on free sex. Dream on.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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wrote on 20 Mar 2025, 00:15 last edited by
OK, let's just keep lying about how it's the government employees on the take, and security scroungers and dead Democrats. Find somebody to blame, and move on, in other words.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.
A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.
You couldn't get both sides to agree on free sex. Dream on.
wrote on 20 Mar 2025, 02:00 last edited by@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
@Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:
You fix the problem. What's your solution?
Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.
A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.
You couldn't get both sides to agree on free sex. Dream on.
You could, but all the Dem women want to bring their strap-ons…
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wrote on 20 Mar 2025, 02:06 last edited by
Hoo-ah!
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wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 23:36 last edited by
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wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 23:43 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 23:48 last edited by 89th
Yeah it’s bad. How can he be so smart and so dumb.
I had just made that comment about the survey claim in the DOGE interview thread.
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wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 00:07 last edited by
Musk literally never said that the National Park Service paid that money. But it's interesting that in order to dunk, this guy felt the need to reframe Musk's words slightly. Later in the interview one of the DOGE guys mentioned that it was connected to the Dept of the Interior, which I'm sure has a larger budget.
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wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 00:10 last edited by Horace
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wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 00:12 last edited by
How about a pat on the back to DOGE for exposing this hilarious retirement mine fiasco? Nobody wants to high five them for that?
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wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 00:31 last edited by
What are you talking about? Musk says clearly in the video:
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wrote on 30 Mar 2025, 00:39 last edited by
@89th Musk said "the government" paid it. (Turns out it was an unsigned contract at the Dept of Interior.) The dunker on Twitter claimed that Musk said "The National Park Service" paid it, then gave the park service's annual budget, and declared victory. Musk never said the park service was paying the survey contract. Anyway, the details as they've been uncovered, are above, and the claim that it's a single survey for $830m still doesn't stand up to scrutiny, but there is a lot of money being paid for survey consulting, which DOGE is ending.
