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Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?

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  • X xenon

    Shouldn’t the biggest effort to cut spending be aimed at where the biggest spending is?

    And how useful is this when you’re on pace to become the administration overseeing the biggest increase in the deficit in the country’s history?

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    @xenon said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

    Shouldn’t the biggest effort to cut spending be aimed at where the biggest spending is?

    And how useful is this when you’re on pace to become the administration overseeing the biggest increase in the deficit in the country’s history?

    Yup coupon clipping while buying ferraris

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      #24

      Yet more amateur hour.

      Perhaps it would have been better if they had inserted a lie here.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Good, sell 'em all.

        I'm sure the dems will eventually buy them all back at twice the price.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Yet more amateur hour.

          Perhaps it would have been better if they had inserted a lie here.

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          @jon-nyc said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

          Yet more amateur hour.

          Perhaps it would have been better if they had inserted a lie here.

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            jon-nyc
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            #27

            lol

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              #28

              Federal outlays grew 7% in February compared to last year and the deficit grew 5%.

              IMG_3541.png

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                As good a place as any to put this.

                https://reason.com/2025/03/05/contrary-to-what-trump-said-even-doge-does-not-claim-to-have-identified-hundreds-of-billions-in-fraud/?utm_campaign=reason_brand&utm_content=&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=image,meme

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                  Pretty much anytime Trump says a number, divide it by a number from 3 to 8.

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                    #31

                    Surely this is willful. He knows he lying by now.

                    Elon Musk: "Government waste and fraud is so high that it's causing a $2 trillion annual deficit. So that's 2,000 billion dollars of waste -- waste and fraud -- that's happening.

                    Surely he knows the deficit is caused mainly by funding things Americans want (SSA, health care, defense) without collecting enough taxes to pay for it. If he hasn’t figured that out yet, god help us.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Well, hot damn and hallelujah!!

                      I want all kinds of stuff I can't pay for! Now I know I can spend money I don't have and buy whatever I want.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #33

                        And why would you ‘know’ that?

                        Seems like a huge non sequitur.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          No, it's just common sense.

                          One shouldn't spend money A) you don't have, and B) you cannot pay back.

                          No matter how badly you want ______.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            #35

                            That is common sense.

                            But I still don’t understand your post as a response to mine. In what sense was I implying otherwise? Just because I called Elon out for his obvious lie doesn’t mean I think the current trajectory is sustainable. The world contains expenditures that are neither fraudulent, wasteful, or affordable.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              #36

                              Because Elon is right. We're $2T in the hole. That's abuse, pure and simple. We're digging a hole where debt payment is going to swallow a massive portion of the budget and truly needed programs will be curtailed or ended.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
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                                He didn’t say ‘we have a 2T deficit’. That would have been a factual albeit banal observation. He said we have 2T of waste and fraud. He knows otherwise.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

                                  Unless you wish to not equate incompetence with waste.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

                                    Unless you wish to not equate incompetence with waste.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                    If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

                                    Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                      If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

                                      Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                      @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                      If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

                                      Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.

                                      OK, peanut.

                                      You fix the problem. What's your solution?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        #41

                                        It isn’t by cutting waste and fraud. That won’t get you anywhere near where you need to be.

                                        I’ve written often about (literally) the only way to fix it. A bipartisan sustained agreement where the pain is shared and both sides own the pain and continue to defend it regardless of who’s in office.

                                        Yeah I don’t see that happening any time soon either.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                          @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                          If it's in the red, it's waste, fraud or both.

                                          Either that or it's submerged under a couple of gallons of Kool-Aid.

                                          OK, peanut.

                                          You fix the problem. What's your solution?

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                                          @Jolly said in Is anyone tracking DOGE lies?:

                                          You fix the problem. What's your solution?

                                          Stop being dishonest about fraud, and address the actual problem. And speak to the other side, and then maybe even listen to them.

                                          A little bit of honesty about the situation would be great, from both parties.

                                          I was only joking

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