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"Women's" Boxing at the Olympics

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 3 Aug 2024, 01:33 last edited by
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    Well, at least Rep. Boebert started a Go Fund for the Italian boxer. 🙄

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/aug/1/lauren-boebert-launches-givesendgo-crowdfund-campa/

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      3 Aug 2024, 01:33

      Well, at least Rep. Boebert started a Go Fund for the Italian boxer. 🙄

      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/aug/1/lauren-boebert-launches-givesendgo-crowdfund-campa/

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      George K
      wrote on 3 Aug 2024, 01:41 last edited by
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      @taiwan_girl said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

      the Italian boxer

      So that's what it's called now.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 4 Aug 2024, 13:59 last edited by
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        Well crap, the Bulgarian boxer that just lost to the Taiwanese boxer that was also tagged by the IBF refused to shake hands, pointed to self, and flashed X twice…

        The Brad

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          George K
          wrote on 5 Aug 2024, 13:44 last edited by
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          My understanding is that there's some controversy about the IBA.

          Nevertheless, this is a pretty strong statement.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 14:02 last edited by
            #29

            39208ff7-3b4c-46ff-8aab-c938d7ed42ba.jpeg

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 14:07 last edited by
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              A lot of confusion, people are thinking the two boxers are going to face each other, but they aren’t. They are in different weight classes.

              The Brad

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 10 Aug 2024, 12:34 last edited by
                #31

                Dawkins wanted to weigh in (see what I did, there?), but FB didn’t like it.

                The Brad

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                  10 Aug 2024, 12:34

                  Dawkins wanted to weigh in (see what I did, there?), but FB didn’t like it.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 10 Aug 2024, 12:35 last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

                  Dawkins wanted to weigh in (see what I did, there?), but FB didn’t like it.

                  Welcome to Joe Biden's America.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    10 Aug 2024, 12:35

                    @LuFins-Dad said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

                    Dawkins wanted to weigh in (see what I did, there?), but FB didn’t like it.

                    Welcome to Joe Biden's America.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 10 Aug 2024, 13:17 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

                    Dawkins wanted to weigh in (see what I did, there?), but FB didn’t like it.

                    Welcome to Joe Biden's America.

                    Except the Olympics are in Paris, Dawkins is in the U.K., Zuckerberg’s FB is an international social media platform, and Joe Biden is being hand fed pudding.

                    The Brad

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 03:04 last edited by
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote about 21 hours ago last edited by
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                        He’s a bloke.

                        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2025/06/01/imane-khelif-medical-report-proves-biological-male/

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote about 19 hours ago last edited by
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                          Wow! I expect we will see quite a lot of apologies and mea culpas over the next few days.

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote about 19 hours ago last edited by
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                            From what I am seeing it appears Khalif has this:

                            5-ARD stands for 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, a rare genetic condition that affects sex development.

                            Key facts:
                            • It’s caused by mutations in the SRD5A2 gene, which encodes the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase type 2.
                            • This enzyme converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) — a more potent androgen critical for the development of male external genitalia in utero.

                            What happens in 5-ARD:
                            • Individuals are typically genetically male (46,XY) but are born with ambiguous or female-appearing genitalia due to lack of DHT during fetal development.
                            • At puberty, testosterone levels rise and may cause masculinization, such as deepening of the voice, increased muscle mass, and growth of a penis from what was previously a small phallus or clitoris-like structure.

                            Other features may include:
                            • Undescended testes (cryptorchidism)
                            • Absence of menstruation (if initially raised as female)
                            • Little or no facial/body hair (due to reduced DHT)

                            Social and medical implications:
                            • Many individuals are raised female and may later transition to a male identity.
                            • The condition is one of several classified as a Difference (or Disorder) of Sex Development (DSD).

                            Treatment options may involve hormone therapy or surgery, but decisions are often individualized and increasingly guided by patient-centered care as the person grows.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote about 19 hours ago last edited by
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                              I could see where this would go unrecognized in less developed nations, but by the time he was competing internationally l, it would have been identified.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote about 18 hours ago last edited by
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                                Also layer on that the social pathologies of Islam. It would suck to be born that way anywhere. But worse there.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote about 13 hours ago last edited by
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                                  Given what @jon-nyc posted above about 5-ARD, is Khalif a "trans"?

                                  If one were to apply the "sex assigned at birth" standard, what sex or gender should be noted on Khalif's passport? Which class or category should Khalif compete in?

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote about 12 hours ago last edited by jon-nyc 6 Feb 2025, 19:05
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                                    Sex isn’t assigned at birth. It’s determined at meiosis, or determined at gamete fusion, depending on how you want to think about it. I think the former is more accurate.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                      about 13 hours ago

                                      Given what @jon-nyc posted above about 5-ARD, is Khalif a "trans"?

                                      If one were to apply the "sex assigned at birth" standard, what sex or gender should be noted on Khalif's passport? Which class or category should Khalif compete in?

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote about 12 hours ago last edited by LuFins Dad 6 Feb 2025, 19:20
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                                      @Axtremus said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

                                      Given what @jon-nyc posted above about 5-ARD, is Khalif a "trans"?

                                      If one were to apply the "sex assigned at birth" standard, what sex or gender should be noted on Khalif's passport? Which class or category should Khalif compete in?

                                      I have no qualms whatsoever about letting Khalif live out his/her life as whatever gender they want. In these extremely rare types of situations, I’m all for compassion and understanding. And most importantly, privacy. And I would definitely not consider Khalif “trans”.

                                      But if Khalif wants to box, it would absolutely need to be in a men’s division.

                                      The Brad

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote about 12 hours ago last edited by
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                                        Would they do this to a woman in Algeria?

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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          about 12 hours ago

                                          Sex isn’t assigned at birth. It’s determined at meiosis, or determined at gamete fusion, depending on how you want to think about it. I think the former is more accurate.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          @jon-nyc said in "Women's" Boxing at the Olympics:

                                          Sex isn’t assigned at birth. It’s determined at meiosis, or determined at gamete fusion, depending on how you want to think about it. I think the former is more accurate.

                                          Re: "we'd assigned at brith," I was just quoting statutory language that's becoming more common these days.

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