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Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?

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    89th
    wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 12:19 last edited by
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    A few years ago I got into the habit of drinking a Monster energy drink on the way to work. It absolutely gives you a jolt of energy for a few hours. A bit of an energy crash, later though. I would drink it instead of coffee (which now is what I drink in the morning).

    That being said, lately I have a supply of Celsius (energy drink with "vitamins, etc"), which again, when I'm having a really tired day because of kids... will give me a jolt of energy and I really like it. As with all things, I try to keep everything in moderation...

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    • L LuFins Dad
      28 Jun 2024, 11:57

      @Jolly said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

      Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

      I assume because it was created for the Florida Gators football team, who wear orange and blue.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 15:33 last edited by
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      @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

      @Jolly said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

      Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

      I assume because it was created for the Florida Gators football team, who wear orange and blue.

      You sir, are correct.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        blondie
        wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 16:28 last edited by blondie
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        Back when I ran my marathons, I had to drink their Gatorade. Awful stuff. I learned early on to cut it half and half with water or else I’d be quick running to a portapotty. Way too hyperosmolar. But it did ward off dehydration and that headache that came on around 30k.
        I tried Red Bull once. I nearly gagged. Definitely not for me.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 01:42 last edited by
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          Red Bull started in Thailand. THey still sell the original recipe here. I think in the US, a can goes for about $2-3? In Thailand, the original comes in a small bottle and sells for about $0.35.

          I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)

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          • T taiwan_girl
            29 Jun 2024, 01:42

            Red Bull started in Thailand. THey still sell the original recipe here. I think in the US, a can goes for about $2-3? In Thailand, the original comes in a small bottle and sells for about $0.35.

            I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 01:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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            @taiwan_girl said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

            I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)

            In America they use real bull semen for the taurine, rather than that fake stuff.

            I was only joking

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              Klaus
              wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 09:28 last edited by
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              I take plenty of taurine as supplement, but I have no need for energy drinks.

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              • L LuFins Dad
                27 Jun 2024, 23:31

                Here’s the problem with coffee… Ken had 8 cups… What kind of cups? The weird 6oz cup measurement that coffee makers use? Actual 8oz cups? 10-12 oz mugs? That’s a 100% variance from 48oz to 96oz.

                I typically have 24oz in the morning, and a lot of times another 16oz in the mid afternoon. I’ve been known to have An occasional 10-16oz in the evening as well. In fact, I will likely be making a couple of cups shortly. Helps with allergies. But, I also drink dark roast, which is lower caffeine… But otoh, I make it strong… And drink it black. Ken might have drank it with cream. Cream might actually be 1/3 of the ounces…

                So it’s not a simple answer.

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                bachophile
                wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 13:15 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

                I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

                Voila

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                After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

                Voila

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                A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

                Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

                Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 14:41 last edited by
                  #22

                  Would a real man drink a beverage with a cute little heart in it, from a cup he can't even get his pinkie finger in the handle?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • B bachophile
                    29 Jun 2024, 13:15

                    @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

                    I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

                    Voila

                    IMG_0024.jpeg

                    After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

                    Voila

                    IMG_0025.jpeg

                    A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

                    Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

                    Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 14:47 last edited by
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                    @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                    @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

                    I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

                    Voila

                    IMG_0024.jpeg

                    After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

                    Voila

                    IMG_0025.jpeg

                    A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

                    Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

                    Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

                    What an absurd remark, but little more should be expected from a cullion…

                    The first area where your statement falls apart is where you seem to believe that steamed milk has anything to do with coffee. It does not. Milk is a fine drink for small children before they are weaned, but not for coffee.

                    Second, you seem to imply that the volume of water vs the coffee itself somehow makes the drink more or less civilized. By that comparison is a bottle of Alturas Pinot Noir “burgundy water” and not as sophisticated as say Jim Beam? The volume ratios are the same when compared to coffee and espresso… Of course not! Wine is the much more sophisticated beverage.

                    Third, sophisticated beverages are not consumed in “shots”. Cullions drink a shot when you want to get the disgusting beverage past your senses as quickly as possible. One takes shots of cough syrup. One takes shots of cod liver oil. One takes shots of Jim Beam and Espresso. Sophisticates do not take shots of wine, coffee, or fine whiskey. One sips and savors…

                    Now, espresso can be like Jim Beam, taken in shots, or it can be like Whistle Pig 15 and savored and enjoyed. I have no animus against espresso (but believe it’s an abomination to dilute it with a newborn’s drink) and quite enjoy savoring a double espresso, but it does nothing to diminish a brewed coffee.

                    The Brad

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 14:55 last edited by
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                      Had to look up cullion

                      I stand by my comments

                      Americans don’t get coffee.

                      They don’t get too much anything

                      For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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                      • B bachophile
                        29 Jun 2024, 14:55

                        Had to look up cullion

                        I stand by my comments

                        Americans don’t get coffee.

                        They don’t get too much anything

                        For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 15:03 last edited by
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                        @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        Had to look up cullion

                        I stand by my comments

                        Americans don’t get coffee.

                        They don’t get too much anything

                        For example, worthy presidential candidates.

                        Yeah, but we got the best lookin' women in the world! And Jewish, to boot!

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                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • B bachophile
                          29 Jun 2024, 14:55

                          Had to look up cullion

                          I stand by my comments

                          Americans don’t get coffee.

                          They don’t get too much anything

                          For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 15:09 last edited by
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                          @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                          Had to look up cullion

                          You can thank Renauda for that…

                          The Brad

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                          • B bachophile
                            29 Jun 2024, 14:55

                            Had to look up cullion

                            I stand by my comments

                            Americans don’t get coffee.

                            They don’t get too much anything

                            For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 15:15 last edited by
                            #27

                            @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                            Had to look up cullion

                            I stand by my comments

                            Americans don’t get coffee.

                            They don’t get too much anything

                            For example, worthy presidential candidates.

                            Enjoy your Italian food with American tomatoes and flavored with American peppers…

                            You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                            The Brad

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 17:18 last edited by
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                              Criticizing our coffee for being too big?
                              It's just the world envious of our abundance.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 30 Jun 2024, 14:37 last edited by
                                #29

                                I made a mistake and ordered a dopio espresso this morning at a coffee shop where everything comes in paper cups. Coffee is fine in those paper cups but espresso? It changes the taste. I swear.

                                The Brad

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 30 Jun 2024, 14:59 last edited by
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                                  Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.

                                  This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    30 Jun 2024, 14:59

                                    Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.

                                    This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 30 Jun 2024, 15:01 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                    Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.

                                    This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.

                                    I can’t drink coffee from stainless steel. I’m one of those that pick up an odor from stainless steel that affects the taste. Oddly, I love water in stainless steel thermoses.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      29 Jun 2024, 15:15

                                      @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                      Had to look up cullion

                                      I stand by my comments

                                      Americans don’t get coffee.

                                      They don’t get too much anything

                                      For example, worthy presidential candidates.

                                      Enjoy your Italian food with American tomatoes and flavored with American peppers…

                                      You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 30 Jun 2024, 20:40 last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                      You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                                      Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        30 Jun 2024, 20:40

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                        You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                                        Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 30 Jun 2024, 21:42 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                        You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                                        Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

                                        1. Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?

                                        2. Since we don’t boil our meats, we don’t find boiling our water as necessary as you Brits. I’ll never understand why we Americans turn our noses up at adding the delicious flavor of water to ham or beef…

                                        The Brad

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          30 Jun 2024, 21:42

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                          You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                                          Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

                                          1. Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?

                                          2. Since we don’t boil our meats, we don’t find boiling our water as necessary as you Brits. I’ll never understand why we Americans turn our noses up at adding the delicious flavor of water to ham or beef…

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 30 Jun 2024, 21:50 last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                          Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?

                                          I've seen what happens to Americans who have natural gas. They feel compelled to leave it on while they test out their handguns.

                                          You've never lived until you've used a 250V, 13A electric kettle.

                                          I was only joking

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