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Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?

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  • bachophileB bachophile

    @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

    I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

    Voila

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    After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

    Voila

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    A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

    Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

    Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

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    @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

    @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

    I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

    Voila

    IMG_0024.jpeg

    After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

    Voila

    IMG_0025.jpeg

    A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

    Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

    Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

    What an absurd remark, but little more should be expected from a cullion…

    The first area where your statement falls apart is where you seem to believe that steamed milk has anything to do with coffee. It does not. Milk is a fine drink for small children before they are weaned, but not for coffee.

    Second, you seem to imply that the volume of water vs the coffee itself somehow makes the drink more or less civilized. By that comparison is a bottle of Alturas Pinot Noir “burgundy water” and not as sophisticated as say Jim Beam? The volume ratios are the same when compared to coffee and espresso… Of course not! Wine is the much more sophisticated beverage.

    Third, sophisticated beverages are not consumed in “shots”. Cullions drink a shot when you want to get the disgusting beverage past your senses as quickly as possible. One takes shots of cough syrup. One takes shots of cod liver oil. One takes shots of Jim Beam and Espresso. Sophisticates do not take shots of wine, coffee, or fine whiskey. One sips and savors…

    Now, espresso can be like Jim Beam, taken in shots, or it can be like Whistle Pig 15 and savored and enjoyed. I have no animus against espresso (but believe it’s an abomination to dilute it with a newborn’s drink) and quite enjoy savoring a double espresso, but it does nothing to diminish a brewed coffee.

    The Brad

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      bachophile
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      #24

      Had to look up cullion

      I stand by my comments

      Americans don’t get coffee.

      They don’t get too much anything

      For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        Had to look up cullion

        I stand by my comments

        Americans don’t get coffee.

        They don’t get too much anything

        For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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        #25

        @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

        Had to look up cullion

        I stand by my comments

        Americans don’t get coffee.

        They don’t get too much anything

        For example, worthy presidential candidates.

        Yeah, but we got the best lookin' women in the world! And Jewish, to boot!

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        • bachophileB bachophile

          Had to look up cullion

          I stand by my comments

          Americans don’t get coffee.

          They don’t get too much anything

          For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #26

          @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

          Had to look up cullion

          You can thank Renauda for that…

          The Brad

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          • bachophileB bachophile

            Had to look up cullion

            I stand by my comments

            Americans don’t get coffee.

            They don’t get too much anything

            For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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            LuFins Dad
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            #27

            @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

            Had to look up cullion

            I stand by my comments

            Americans don’t get coffee.

            They don’t get too much anything

            For example, worthy presidential candidates.

            Enjoy your Italian food with American tomatoes and flavored with American peppers…

            You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

            The Brad

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              Axtremus
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              #28

              Criticizing our coffee for being too big?
              It's just the world envious of our abundance.

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                LuFins Dad
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                #29

                I made a mistake and ordered a dopio espresso this morning at a coffee shop where everything comes in paper cups. Coffee is fine in those paper cups but espresso? It changes the taste. I swear.

                The Brad

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                  Horace
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                  #30

                  Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.

                  This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.

                    This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.

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                    @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                    Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.

                    This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.

                    I can’t drink coffee from stainless steel. I’m one of those that pick up an odor from stainless steel that affects the taste. Oddly, I love water in stainless steel thermoses.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                      Had to look up cullion

                      I stand by my comments

                      Americans don’t get coffee.

                      They don’t get too much anything

                      For example, worthy presidential candidates.

                      Enjoy your Italian food with American tomatoes and flavored with American peppers…

                      You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

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                      #32

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                      You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                      Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                        Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                        Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

                        1. Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?

                        2. Since we don’t boil our meats, we don’t find boiling our water as necessary as you Brits. I’ll never understand why we Americans turn our noses up at adding the delicious flavor of water to ham or beef…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                          You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…

                          Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.

                          1. Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?

                          2. Since we don’t boil our meats, we don’t find boiling our water as necessary as you Brits. I’ll never understand why we Americans turn our noses up at adding the delicious flavor of water to ham or beef…

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                          Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?

                          I've seen what happens to Americans who have natural gas. They feel compelled to leave it on while they test out their handguns.

                          You've never lived until you've used a 250V, 13A electric kettle.

                          I was only joking

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            Wow. That sounds… thrilling.

                            The Brad

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                              The electric kettle is a lot faster. Espresso is fantastic stuff. But if you want an energy drink try Cuban coffee.

                              I’ve never tried an energy drink either.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Horace
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                                As a discriminating foodie, I can taste the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  As a discriminating foodie, I can taste the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                  As a discriminating foodie, I can taste the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

                                  And which is preferable?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    The electric kettle is a lot faster. Espresso is fantastic stuff. But if you want an energy drink try Cuban coffee.

                                    I’ve never tried an energy drink either.

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                                    @Mik said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                    I’ve never tried an energy drink either.

                                    me too

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                      As a discriminating foodie, I can taste the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

                                      And which is preferable?

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                      @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                      As a discriminating foodie, I can taste the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

                                      And which is preferable?

                                      I like a mix of the two, with gas heated water on top and electric heated water on bottom.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        As a discriminating foodie, I can taste the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

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                                        @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                        the difference between water heated with gas and water heated with electricity.

                                        It's the greenhouse gas

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                                          Jolly
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                                          Just a cautionary tale...

                                          I worked this weekend at my little rural hospital gig. Five cases of heat exhaustion through the ED.

                                          FIVE.

                                          Only mad men and English men go out in the midday sun. And drink your gatorade (or equivalent).

                                          Here's what I know from personal experience...When doing heavy work, we used to start early at 7am. If the crew had water, we were shot by noon. Absolutely whipped. If gatorade was subbed for water, we could usually work for another hour or hour&a half after noon break.

                                          In heat, it makes that much difference.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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