Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?
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Back when I ran my marathons, I had to drink their Gatorade. Awful stuff. I learned early on to cut it half and half with water or else I’d be quick running to a portapotty. Way too hyperosmolar. But it did ward off dehydration and that headache that came on around 30k.
I tried Red Bull once. I nearly gagged. Definitely not for me. -
Red Bull started in Thailand. THey still sell the original recipe here. I think in the US, a can goes for about $2-3? In Thailand, the original comes in a small bottle and sells for about $0.35.
I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)
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Red Bull started in Thailand. THey still sell the original recipe here. I think in the US, a can goes for about $2-3? In Thailand, the original comes in a small bottle and sells for about $0.35.
I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)
@taiwan_girl said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)
In America they use real bull semen for the taurine, rather than that fake stuff.
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I take plenty of taurine as supplement, but I have no need for energy drinks.
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Here’s the problem with coffee… Ken had 8 cups… What kind of cups? The weird 6oz cup measurement that coffee makers use? Actual 8oz cups? 10-12 oz mugs? That’s a 100% variance from 48oz to 96oz.
I typically have 24oz in the morning, and a lot of times another 16oz in the mid afternoon. I’ve been known to have An occasional 10-16oz in the evening as well. In fact, I will likely be making a couple of cups shortly. Helps with allergies. But, I also drink dark roast, which is lower caffeine… But otoh, I make it strong… And drink it black. Ken might have drank it with cream. Cream might actually be 1/3 of the ounces…
So it’s not a simple answer.
@LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.
I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.
Voila
After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso
Voila
A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).
Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.
Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.
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@LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.
I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.
Voila
After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso
Voila
A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).
Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.
Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.
@bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
@LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.
I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.
Voila
After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso
Voila
A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).
Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.
Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.
What an absurd remark, but little more should be expected from a cullion…
The first area where your statement falls apart is where you seem to believe that steamed milk has anything to do with coffee. It does not. Milk is a fine drink for small children before they are weaned, but not for coffee.
Second, you seem to imply that the volume of water vs the coffee itself somehow makes the drink more or less civilized. By that comparison is a bottle of Alturas Pinot Noir “burgundy water” and not as sophisticated as say Jim Beam? The volume ratios are the same when compared to coffee and espresso… Of course not! Wine is the much more sophisticated beverage.
Third, sophisticated beverages are not consumed in “shots”. Cullions drink a shot when you want to get the disgusting beverage past your senses as quickly as possible. One takes shots of cough syrup. One takes shots of cod liver oil. One takes shots of Jim Beam and Espresso. Sophisticates do not take shots of wine, coffee, or fine whiskey. One sips and savors…
Now, espresso can be like Jim Beam, taken in shots, or it can be like Whistle Pig 15 and savored and enjoyed. I have no animus against espresso (but believe it’s an abomination to dilute it with a newborn’s drink) and quite enjoy savoring a double espresso, but it does nothing to diminish a brewed coffee.
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Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
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Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
@bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
Yeah, but we got the best lookin' women in the world! And Jewish, to boot!
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Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
@bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
Had to look up cullion
You can thank Renauda for that…
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Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
@bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
Enjoy your Italian food with American tomatoes and flavored with American peppers…
You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…
The Brad
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I made a mistake and ordered a dopio espresso this morning at a coffee shop where everything comes in paper cups. Coffee is fine in those paper cups but espresso? It changes the taste. I swear.
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Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.
This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.
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Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.
This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.
@Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
Yes a paper cup would absolutely change the taste of an esspresso. This becomes inevitable if you smell an empty paper cup and then a ceramic one. The paper one has a smell. Which inevitably affects taste.
This morning I am drinking a black 20 oz french press coffee from my favorite stainless steel insulated mug.
I can’t drink coffee from stainless steel. I’m one of those that pick up an odor from stainless steel that affects the taste. Oddly, I love water in stainless steel thermoses.
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@bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
Had to look up cullion
I stand by my comments
Americans don’t get coffee.
They don’t get too much anything
For example, worthy presidential candidates.
Enjoy your Italian food with American tomatoes and flavored with American peppers…
You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…
@LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…
Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…
Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
@LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…
Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.
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Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?
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Since we don’t boil our meats, we don’t find boiling our water as necessary as you Brits. I’ll never understand why we Americans turn our noses up at adding the delicious flavor of water to ham or beef…
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
@LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
You know, it seems to me that except for the French, pretty much most of the western world’s cuisine is completely dependent on foods that originated in the Americas…
Americans invented electricity too, but it still takes longer to boil a kettle over here than some world wars have lasted. It's no wonder you've never figured out you're supposed to boil the freaking water.
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Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?
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Since we don’t boil our meats, we don’t find boiling our water as necessary as you Brits. I’ll never understand why we Americans turn our noses up at adding the delicious flavor of water to ham or beef…
@LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:
Why use electricity when we have perfectly good natural gas to boil water?
I've seen what happens to Americans who have natural gas. They feel compelled to leave it on while they test out their handguns.
You've never lived until you've used a 250V, 13A electric kettle.
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Wow. That sounds… thrilling.
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The electric kettle is a lot faster. Espresso is fantastic stuff. But if you want an energy drink try Cuban coffee.
I’ve never tried an energy drink either.
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