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Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #6

    True enough. I have become well acquainted with the idea that salt and potassium are important after sweating a lot. But I prefer to drink salt water than gatorade.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #7

      Here’s the problem with coffee… Ken had 8 cups… What kind of cups? The weird 6oz cup measurement that coffee makers use? Actual 8oz cups? 10-12 oz mugs? That’s a 100% variance from 48oz to 96oz.

      I typically have 24oz in the morning, and a lot of times another 16oz in the mid afternoon. I’ve been known to have An occasional 10-16oz in the evening as well. In fact, I will likely be making a couple of cups shortly. Helps with allergies. But, I also drink dark roast, which is lower caffeine… But otoh, I make it strong… And drink it black. Ken might have drank it with cream. Cream might actually be 1/3 of the ounces…

      So it’s not a simple answer.

      The Brad

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      • HoraceH Horace

        I even think gatorade is gross. To say nothing of Monster or Red Bull etc.

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        LuFins Dad
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        #8

        @Horace said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

        I even think gatorade is gross. To say nothing of Monster or Red Bull etc.

        I like Tthe yellow gatorade. That’s it. I will also drink water with lemon and a couple of pinches of salt.

        The Brad

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #9

          Yellow Gatorade was my go-to when cycling. I'd also chug a Red Bull before I went out - it actually seemed to make a noticeable difference. I haven't cycled all year, sadly.

          I was only joking

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            #10

            Never tried an energy drink. I find mixing a bit of cranberry juice and club soda sufficiently thirst quenching and refreshing as required.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              Never tried an energy drink. I find mixing a bit of cranberry juice and club soda sufficiently thirst quenching and refreshing as required.

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              George K
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              #11

              @Renauda said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

              I find mixing a bit of cranberry juice and club soda sufficiently thirst quenching and refreshing as required.

              Yup. Get a Sodastream!

              Their additional flavors don't impress me, but I might try a little cranberry juice! Thanks for the tip.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                #12

                Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  #13

                  According to a dietitian who works with my spouse; just add a little table salt to unsweetened orange juice and you have home made Gatorade without the sugar. Eat half a banana alongside to get your potassium boost. Enjoy.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    @Jolly said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                    Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

                    I assume because it was created for the Florida Gators football team, who wear orange and blue.

                    The Brad

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                      A few years ago I got into the habit of drinking a Monster energy drink on the way to work. It absolutely gives you a jolt of energy for a few hours. A bit of an energy crash, later though. I would drink it instead of coffee (which now is what I drink in the morning).

                      That being said, lately I have a supply of Celsius (energy drink with "vitamins, etc"), which again, when I'm having a really tired day because of kids... will give me a jolt of energy and I really like it. As with all things, I try to keep everything in moderation...

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Jolly said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

                        I assume because it was created for the Florida Gators football team, who wear orange and blue.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        @Jolly said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                        Why is the original color of Gatorade orange?

                        I assume because it was created for the Florida Gators football team, who wear orange and blue.

                        You sir, are correct.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          blondie
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                          #17

                          Back when I ran my marathons, I had to drink their Gatorade. Awful stuff. I learned early on to cut it half and half with water or else I’d be quick running to a portapotty. Way too hyperosmolar. But it did ward off dehydration and that headache that came on around 30k.
                          I tried Red Bull once. I nearly gagged. Definitely not for me.

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                            Red Bull started in Thailand. THey still sell the original recipe here. I think in the US, a can goes for about $2-3? In Thailand, the original comes in a small bottle and sells for about $0.35.

                            I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              Red Bull started in Thailand. THey still sell the original recipe here. I think in the US, a can goes for about $2-3? In Thailand, the original comes in a small bottle and sells for about $0.35.

                              I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)

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                              #19

                              @taiwan_girl said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                              I have never tried neither, so have no idea why the big difference in price (or how much difference in taste)

                              In America they use real bull semen for the taurine, rather than that fake stuff.

                              I was only joking

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                                #20

                                I take plenty of taurine as supplement, but I have no need for energy drinks.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Here’s the problem with coffee… Ken had 8 cups… What kind of cups? The weird 6oz cup measurement that coffee makers use? Actual 8oz cups? 10-12 oz mugs? That’s a 100% variance from 48oz to 96oz.

                                  I typically have 24oz in the morning, and a lot of times another 16oz in the mid afternoon. I’ve been known to have An occasional 10-16oz in the evening as well. In fact, I will likely be making a couple of cups shortly. Helps with allergies. But, I also drink dark roast, which is lower caffeine… But otoh, I make it strong… And drink it black. Ken might have drank it with cream. Cream might actually be 1/3 of the ounces…

                                  So it’s not a simple answer.

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

                                  I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

                                  Voila

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                                  After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

                                  Voila

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                                  A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

                                  Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

                                  Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    Would a real man drink a beverage with a cute little heart in it, from a cup he can't even get his pinkie finger in the handle?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

                                      I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

                                      Voila

                                      IMG_0024.jpeg

                                      After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

                                      Voila

                                      IMG_0025.jpeg

                                      A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

                                      Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

                                      Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      #23

                                      @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                      @LuFins-Dad I need to comment on the sizes of what Americans strangely term “coffee”.

                                      I mean the whole friggin world knows that in the morning, one has a cappuccino which is 25 mls that’s 1 fluid ounce) of espresso plus steamed milk.

                                      Voila

                                      IMG_0024.jpeg

                                      After 11 am one has occasional shouts of espresso

                                      Voila

                                      IMG_0025.jpeg

                                      A single does of 25 mls (again for the barbarians 1 fluid ounce).

                                      Drinking a 24 fluid ounce of “coffee” is not drinking coffee, just a lot of blackened water.

                                      Civilized nations drink mineral water, preferably frizzante, for hydration needs. It’s not a part of the ritual of coffee consumption which is never tainted with volumes of water.

                                      What an absurd remark, but little more should be expected from a cullion…

                                      The first area where your statement falls apart is where you seem to believe that steamed milk has anything to do with coffee. It does not. Milk is a fine drink for small children before they are weaned, but not for coffee.

                                      Second, you seem to imply that the volume of water vs the coffee itself somehow makes the drink more or less civilized. By that comparison is a bottle of Alturas Pinot Noir “burgundy water” and not as sophisticated as say Jim Beam? The volume ratios are the same when compared to coffee and espresso… Of course not! Wine is the much more sophisticated beverage.

                                      Third, sophisticated beverages are not consumed in “shots”. Cullions drink a shot when you want to get the disgusting beverage past your senses as quickly as possible. One takes shots of cough syrup. One takes shots of cod liver oil. One takes shots of Jim Beam and Espresso. Sophisticates do not take shots of wine, coffee, or fine whiskey. One sips and savors…

                                      Now, espresso can be like Jim Beam, taken in shots, or it can be like Whistle Pig 15 and savored and enjoyed. I have no animus against espresso (but believe it’s an abomination to dilute it with a newborn’s drink) and quite enjoy savoring a double espresso, but it does nothing to diminish a brewed coffee.

                                      The Brad

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                                        Had to look up cullion

                                        I stand by my comments

                                        Americans don’t get coffee.

                                        They don’t get too much anything

                                        For example, worthy presidential candidates.

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                                        • bachophileB bachophile

                                          Had to look up cullion

                                          I stand by my comments

                                          Americans don’t get coffee.

                                          They don’t get too much anything

                                          For example, worthy presidential candidates.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          @bachophile said in Energy Drinks: Are They Worth the Heart Risk?:

                                          Had to look up cullion

                                          I stand by my comments

                                          Americans don’t get coffee.

                                          They don’t get too much anything

                                          For example, worthy presidential candidates.

                                          Yeah, but we got the best lookin' women in the world! And Jewish, to boot!

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                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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